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    Points only do you go Matthew Tkachuk (9.5) or Bratt (7.875)?

    Its not huge savings but I'm leaning Bratt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luffy D Monkey View Post
    Points only do you go Matthew Tkachuk (9.5) or Bratt (7.875)?

    Its not huge savings but I'm leaning Bratt.

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    I think Tkachuk scores more points but Bratt is more productive per salary… so it depends on your salary situation
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    It's Tkachuk for me and not close imo. He probably would have got a 3rd 100+ pts season in a row if he had started the season fully healthy

    I would try to cut $2M elsewhere if I really needed it

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Rection View Post
    It's Tkachuk for me and not close imo. He probably would have got a 3rd 100+ pts season in a row if he had started the season fully healthy

    I would try to cut $2M elsewhere if I really needed it
    Exactly how i see it, tkachuk and not close for me with the minimal savings. Tkachuk started the year real slow and then got back into form.
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    Tkachuk's upside is owrth the extra 2M$... Find savings elawhere
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    Tkachuk for me. I think the difference between the two should be about 15 pts and I'm thinking there is a chance it could be more rather than less. If you knew exactly what your team looked like you could determine if your overall scoring would allow for the difference between Bratt and Tkachuk and let you save some CAP, but you don't. Further, as you said, it's not a huge saving anyway. Keep Tkachuk. As a last point, I would be interested to know what the context of your question is? In a 10 team keep 8 pts only I have to think Bratt is also a keeper, hell he's a PPG scorer?? You must have one hell of a forward core or I'm missing something (:
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    The quick answer is Tkachuk as he will put up more points and have more value if you ever want to trade him eventually. I love Bratt but his name is less sexy in a trade. The savings are not enough for the difference between those two in value and perceived value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Muir View Post
    The quick answer is Tkachuk as he will put up more points and have more value if you ever want to trade him eventually. I love Bratt but his name is less sexy in a trade. The savings are not enough for the difference between those two in value and perceived value.
    Perceived value i agree, real value? im not so sure. Salary difference is about 20% and i think production will be less then 20% different in points only league. If Tkachuk gets 100 will Bratt get 80? probably very close.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belexus75 View Post
    Perceived value i agree, real value? im not so sure. Salary difference is about 20% and i think production will be less then 20% different in points only league. If Tkachuk gets 100 will Bratt get 80? probably very close.
    yeah you are 100% right if we look at it pts/$ but we don’t know if the OP need to drop one of the two and if he is tight on the cap or if he want to acquire one by trading. So without more info on the context, I just think the overall value of Tkachuk is better as an asset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Muir View Post
    yeah you are 100% right if we look at it pts/$ but we don’t know if the OP need to drop one of the two and if he is tight on the cap or if he want to acquire one by trading. So without more info on the context, I just think the overall value of Tkachuk is better as an asset.
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    So for context, I mean...we are always tight to the cap? Every dollar will get spent.
    Money saved will just get spent elsewhere when I draft.

    Guys around Bratt's salary 7-8 mil are bubble keepers/top 3 round picks in my league. For instance, N Suzuki, Fiala, etc.
    For more context, I am probably dropping both Raymond and Jarvis who I project to land around 7/8 million salary range as well.

    For my eight keepers I have 2 great ELC players, 4 great but expensive d-men (very scarce and I have placed a premium on high scoring D), a good value forward (3 million range) and either Bratt/Tkachuk (or Raymond/Jarvis if one of them gets a surprisingly low cap hit deal).

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    Can you find a player that will get you more than 15-20 points for around $2mil? My guess is yes.
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    It's Tkachuk. His decrease in points was due to a downtick in PPPts (likely because of Reinhart's unsustainable gains in that area) and a very low, for him, SH%. If he had the same number of PPPts as he did in 2023-24 and had he shot at his 13.2% rate that was his career rate coming into 2023-24, then tadah, his point total would've been 105, which Bratt likely will never come close to sniffing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tweetdrivr View Post
    Can you find a player that will get you more than 15-20 points for around $2mil? My guess is yes.
    I would think of it more like this: if I select Bratt I have an average of 4.6 million to spend on each remaining player. If I select Tkachuk I have an average of 4.45 each.
    Looking at it that way, the higher salary isn't a big detriment really.
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