2024 NFL Offseason Discussion

[PenguinHunter]

I'm all for signing an O-Line over an RB, especially if your team is crap, but it's funny seeing Barkley leave on a 3yr $37,750,000 deal to a rival but signing a former 2020 6th round pick guard to a 3yr $30,000,000 the same day.

I wonder if the top Rbs signing quickly was the RBs knowing they can't wait out for better deals, or is it the league offense is going to shift slightly to more run thinking offense as defenses have shifted to 2 safeties high and leaving the box open, smaller LBs too.

Sam Darnold signed a deal with Minny, so does Minny use their 11th overall pick on a trade with Chicago for Fields? Use it on a blah QB? Use it on a guard to help the sub-par QB? They have an interesting issue right now.

They better do something significant - cause I can see Jefferson leaving soon if they don't.

I heard he wanted Cousins to continue as his QB.

[2014olympicgold]

They better do something significant - cause I can see Jefferson leaving soon if they don't.

I heard he wanted Cousins to continue as his QB.

He's a UFA in 2025. They need a QB or they need to trade him.

For the fun of it, I would LOVE to see Jefferson in Cincy lol. Oh man that would be fun.

[PenguinHunter]

He's a UFA in 2025. They need a QB or they need to trade him.

For the fun of it, I would LOVE to see Jefferson in Cincy lol. Oh man that would be fun.

Can Cincy add enough to Tee Higgins to make that trade happen?

[PenguinHunter]

Joe Mixon released by Bengals, who add Zack Moss.

Quite the day indeed. I only really started following the NFL probably 5ish years ago so I'm always stunned by the amount of high end players who move compared to the NHL. So much turnover, especially at RB where many players are done well before they turn 30.

Texans make a quick move and trade for Mixon before the release becomes official?

Or sometime in between Cincy making the report that they were releasing him and actually releasing him.

Interesting.

[2014olympicgold]

Can Cincy add enough to Tee Higgins to make that trade happen?

WR are weirdly valued in the NFL so I'd be curious what the price tag around both WR would be. I'd suspect the Vikings are toying with the idea of what to do at QB first before wondering about a JJ trade.

- If you don't trade JJ, you need a QB now. So what's the cost of Justin Fields
- If you trade JJ, are you wanting to compete now? If so you get Higgins+, but then need a QB still.
- If you trade JJ, and you don't want to compete, you then look at your roster for full purge.
- If the Vikings trade JJ to Cincy and don't want to compete, what does Cincy have that helps Vikings (just picks)?
- Then what's the value of Higgins on the market? Probably not a whole lot.

If I'm Minny, they've been in cap issues for a while, I think you explore first moving JJ to the Bears in a package for the 1st overall. Use the rookie QB cap hit to lower your cap issues. If that's too much, you then pivot to a Higgins/JJ deal, and use the extra stuff from that to acquire Fields. But...Chicago would be crazy to deal Fields to a divisional rival....

So what QB is out there that helps you now, that's not in the division? I honestly rather have taken a shot with Mac Jones than Sam Darnold.

[2014olympicgold]

Henry (RB) to Ravens 2yr, $16m (worth up to $20m). Ravens are likely to get $16m in ticket and jersey sales just off the signing holy.

[dejeanneret]

Henry (RB) to Ravens 2yr, $16m (worth up to $20m). Ravens are likely to get $16m in ticket and jersey sales just off the signing holy.

Henry looked done'ish last season. Will be interesting to see whether he can bounce back a bit on a better roster. Barring injury, can see him fairly easily getting in the 10-15 TD range though.

[2014olympicgold]

Henry is in a weird situation because he was clearly falling off last yr, and just basic thinking would be that he isn't going to get better talent wise. So he'll get worse. Then you go "ok how much better is his sitaution in Baltimore"

I think he'll do well because look at what the RBs have done in Baltimore the last few yrs, but if you run an RPO with Lamar/Henry, defenders will cheat Henry every time. The run game for Baltimore will be better, but I don't know specifically how much better Henry will do.

I still see Henry as a top 36 fantasy player tho. Availability is huge and Henry has not had injury issues recently...but it's Baltimore and watch out for pre-season RB injuries lol.

[PenguinHunter]

Mike Williams has been released by Chargers

[dejeanneret]

Mike Williams has been released by Chargers

Makes sense. Wonder what this saves them in cap space? Just saw something earlier today that the Chargers have/had 4 of the 12 highest cap hits league wide (Mack, Bosa, Keenan and Williams). Williams was carrying a $32.46 million cap hit. That wasn't tenable.

[2014olympicgold]

Makes sense. Wonder what this saves them in cap space? Just saw something earlier today that the Chargers have/had 4 of the 12 highest cap hits league wide (Mack, Bosa, Keenan and Williams). Williams was carrying a $32.46 million cap hit. That wasn't tenable.

Bosa restructured yesterday, cap is going up, I think they're fine now.

The Williams release is more to do with the pairing of Allen and Williams isn't working, Williams makes a ton and is always hurt, and is recovering from a knee injury as a big man. I think it was "We need to save cap" and "this guy isn't working".

[PenguinHunter]

Makes sense. Wonder what this saves them in cap space? Just saw something earlier today that the Chargers have/had 4 of the 12 highest cap hits league wide (Mack, Bosa, Keenan and Williams). Williams was carrying a $32.46 million cap hit. That wasn't tenable.

I read 20 Million in savings against the cap.

Calvin Ridley went to Tennessee.... Hopkins/Ridley/Burks

[PenguinHunter]

Makes sense. Wonder what this saves them in cap space? Just saw something earlier today that the Chargers have/had 4 of the 12 highest cap hits league wide (Mack, Bosa, Keenan and Williams). Williams was carrying a $32.46 million cap hit. That wasn't tenable.

I read 20 Million in savings against the cap.

Calvin Ridley went to Tennessee.... Hopkins/Ridley/Burks

[hockeyrobot]

So the Chargers brought in Harbaugh... And didn't resign Ekeler, traded Keenan and cut Mike W.

[PenguinHunter]

So the Chargers brought in Harbaugh... And didn't resign Ekeler, traded Keenan and cut Mike W.

like wow what is Justin Herbert feel like right now.

I saw a meme of him in the fresh Prince of Bel Air living room. The final scene where Will is in there and everything has been moved out.