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    OK folks..just trying to nail down what I'm keeping, i'm pretty sure... just a consensus on my thoughts

    Keep 3 of these:

    Kakko
    Addy
    Rossi
    Perfetti
    Guenther
    Quinn

    as of right now i have Perf Quinn and Guenther as the keepers, although i am leaning towards finding a way to keep Addy. Keeper lock not until +/- 3 weeks from opening day so i have time...
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    I think that's right, but I might consider keeping Addison ahead of Quinn. Although Addison's 2022-23 wasn't a blockbuster, it was still his first full year and there currently isn't anyone in the Minnesota system with the same power play offensive juice that he has. Minnesota still has two more years of the $15 million Suter/Parise albatross, so they still need to play it cheap, which probably bars bringing in a FA D suitable to taking the #1 offensive role. Unless they bring in a cheap Erik Gustafsson type whose only value would be a PP specialist, we're looking at Addison serving up Kaprizov and Boldy with lots of assists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by senryu View Post
    I think that's right, but I might consider keeping Addison ahead of Quinn. Although Addison's 2022-23 wasn't a blockbuster, it was still his first full year and there currently isn't anyone in the Minnesota system with the same power play offensive juice that he has. Minnesota still has two more years of the $15 million Suter/Parise albatross, so they still need to play it cheap, which probably bars bringing in a FA D suitable to taking the #1 offensive role. Unless they bring in a cheap Erik Gustafsson type whose only value would be a PP specialist, we're looking at Addison serving up Kaprizov and Boldy with lots of assists.
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    Addison, Perfetti, Rossi for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hank mooney View Post
    Klingberg?
    Klingberg is a free agent. He is undoubtedly looking for a long term big contract deal; he only signed a one-year deal last year at below market value ($3.5 million) because he held out for the big big money and lost the game of musical chairs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by senryu View Post
    Klingberg is a free agent. He is undoubtedly looking for a long term big contract deal; he only signed a one-year deal last year at below market value ($3.5 million) because he held out for the big big money and lost the game of musical chairs.
    He signed a 7 million dollar contract which was retained down to 3.5 million

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nylander2.0 View Post
    He signed a 7 million dollar contract which was retained down to 3.5 million
    This is right, $7 million. Even more so, we can't expect Klingberg to resign with the Wild at $7 million or thereabouts, so he's out of the picture unless his love for the Walker Art Center and its cherry on a spoon sculpture is so overwhelming that he takes less than market value.

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    Perfetti paced for about 50, so he's an easy keep.
    Quinn paced for 40, so he's my second.

    The last spot comes down to Addison versus Guenther. given that you have DEF points, I'd go Addsion, but if you want to keep both, you can do so by making a trade.

    I'd look into dealing one of your goalie prospects and a keeper for an upgraded keeper to free up a spot.
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    made a move today that clearly muddied the waters.

    OUT = Tage (Kakko) and 11OA
    IN = Caufield, Byfield, Cozens and 3OA

    so now i have to drop out 5 players. i will obviously have some painful drops but i have come around to keeping Addy over Quinn / Perf / Guenther. Marchenko and Rossi are simple for me IMO.

    trouble with making trades (more trades) is that the guys coming in HAVE to be lock stock and barrel sure fire better than what i have. so bundling up 2 ro three of these guys to get one guy is tough to do in our league..
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    C- Zegras, Suzuki, Carlsson
    RW- Batherson, Foerster, Michkov, Kakko, Quinn, Perfetti(C,LW)
    LW- BTkachuk, Stutzle(C), Byfield(C), McTavish(C), Benson
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    I think you'll regret dropping kakko- he has the same issue lafreniere has- he hasn't really been given a chance. Tbh though if you ask guys with their eyes on the kid line in NYR I heard more than once that kakko looked spectacular- a sentiment i have not heard so much for my guy- laffy- lol! So hes at least having dominant bursts even if they're not showing up in the scoreboard yet. This coaching change should help both. I don't think we'll see any dominant season out of him next year but I dont really think any of these guys will.

    I think dropping perfetti is a mistake. I do t know if he'll ever be a gamevreaker but he looks so good already and is poised for a big jump when pld is moved. Hes going to provide a high rate of scoring consistently for a lot of years. I could see every one of these guys being question marks next year again except for perfetti- hes going to graduate off this list by next year.

    I've cooled on Rossi significantly. I think he can end up just fine- fairly good even- but I wasn't aware he was so partial to passing/playmaking. You don't count sogs so this might not be a big issue for you and he can certainly add that element to his game or end up as a guy who thrives in spite of it but its at least worrying. Id take him over Addison but if you really need a dman or are swayed to keep Addison by the advice on here thats a fine play too. I just mean the last keeper to me is Rossi or Addison cause im not dropping kakko or perfetti.

    The other two look great but they don't really fit on this list imho. Quinn is sort of making a living on l2 with cozens but there's no reason to think he gets more than marginal pp time for a good long time and that will cap his production as that of a serviceable supplementary player imho. Guenther and the yotes are still a ways away and even though im a fan you can't drop guys that are already entrenched on the team and have similar upsides. I mean you can but I wouldn't...

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    Quote Originally Posted by finnys_fanatsy View Post
    made a move today that clearly muddied the waters.

    OUT = Tage (Kakko) and 11OA
    IN = Caufield, Byfield, Cozens and 3OA

    so now i have to drop out 5 players. i will obviously have some painful drops but i have come around to keeping Addy over Quinn / Perf / Guenther. Marchenko and Rossi are simple for me IMO.

    trouble with making trades (more trades) is that the guys coming in HAVE to be lock stock and barrel sure fire better than what i have. so bundling up 2 ro three of these guys to get one guy is tough to do in our league..
    Marchenko over perfetti should not be simple. I'm not totally sold on the trade but congrats on caufield and the 3rd overall!!

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    Thx all so far.

    Really has become a keep one of six

    Perf
    Addy
    Rossi
    Marchenko
    Quinn
    Guenther
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    C- Zegras, Suzuki, Carlsson
    RW- Batherson, Foerster, Michkov, Kakko, Quinn, Perfetti(C,LW)
    LW- BTkachuk, Stutzle(C), Byfield(C), McTavish(C), Benson
    D- Mintyukov, Sanderson, LHughes, Clarke, Faber
    G- Wolf, Askarov, Wallstedt
    IR- Norris(C)
    IR- Fantilli(C)
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    Quote Originally Posted by finnys_fanatsy View Post
    Thx all so far.

    Really has become a keep one of six

    Perf
    Addy
    Rossi
    Marchenko
    Quinn
    Guenther
    Perfetti for me.

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