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    My team is currently in rebuild mode with the likes of: Rantanen, Dahlin, Hischier, J. Robertson and hopefully drafting Bedard post lottery (I'm last in my league). I would like to start turning the ship next year.

    With that being said, I have decisions to make on some prospects/young players.

    Please rank the following players (tiers would be greatly appreciated!) based on career projections/3yrs.

    Might be tough with a mix of dmen and a goalie but any help is appreciated and REP to be given where I can. Thanks!

    Perfetti
    W. Johnston
    Newhook
    Jarvis
    Pinto
    Berggren
    Kakko
    Nazar
    Brisson
    Guhle
    Lundkvist
    S. Skinner
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    Doing this more to see how well my own projections align with the other posters in this forum, so take this ranking with a large grain of salt.

    W. Johnston
    S. Skinner
    Perfetti
    Jarvis
    Pinto
    Nazar
    Lundkvist
    Berggren
    Kakko
    Newhook
    Guhle
    Brisson

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    For your team, and given importance of goalie categories and need for 4 D:

    S Skinner
    Jarvis
    Lundkvist
    Perfetti
    W Johntson
    Guhle
    Newhook
    Berggren
    Kakko
    Pinto
    Nazar

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    Folding Forwards, D and Goalies into a single ranking is a pretty tough task and is based on your scoring cats but perhaps more importantly, positional requirements for a specific team. I'm not going there (:

    However here is my ranking for the specific positions:

    Goalies

    Skinner - Well now, that one was easy (:

    D

    Lundqvist
    Guhle

    F
    Perfetti
    W Johntson
    Jarvis
    Kakko
    Newhook
    Berggren
    Nazar
    Pinto
    Brisson
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    BENCH: Kakko, Jost, Ruzicka, Holtz, Clarke, Lankinen

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    oalies

    Skinner - Well now, that one was easy (:

    D

    Lundqvist
    Guhle

    F
    Perfetti
    W Johntson
    Jarvis
    Kakko
    Newhook
    Berggren
    Nazar
    Pinto
    Brisson
    this is pretty close for me as well, although im somewhat tempted to move Nazar up a notch or two, but no more than where Kakko is, and swap Jarvis and WJo
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    Quote Originally Posted by finnys_fanatsy View Post
    this is pretty close for me as well, although im somewhat tempted to move Nazar up a notch or two, but no more than where Kakko is, and swap Jarvis and WJo
    Yeah that was actually a really solid ranking, and I'd also just bump nazar up one or two spots as well.

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    G:
    Skinner is highly dependent on how he does in the playoffs. If he's the guy, he's a keep. If not, he's probably a dollar goalie backup again next year. Hellebuyck is probably a keeper, unless 7 is a huge number for a player, but if it's less than Rantanen, Schiefele, and Ehlers, I think it isn't.

    D:
    Guhle
    Lundkvist

    I know this looks odd, but realize that Guhle is outpacing Lundkvist this year for points, and his physicality is a bonus. It's close, though.

    F:
    Tiering these guys:

    Tier 1:
    Perfetti/Johnston/Jarvis

    Tier 2;
    Kakko/Newhook/Pinto -closer, but maybe less upside
    Berggren/Nazar - further away

    Tier 3:
    Brisson
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    Thanks for everyones input, rep has been given.

    Besides stevegamer, am I the only one who ranks Guhle above Lundkvist? I am Habs fan so maybe my opinion is skewed.

    I also thought Newhook might have some more value or has the hype dropped off?
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    G,A,PPP,OG = 1, PIM, +/- = 0.25, Block/Hits = 0.1
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    D - Dahlin (4.3), Theodore (5), Guhle (1), Lundkvist (1)
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    Quote Originally Posted by LesBoys4 View Post
    Thanks for everyones input, rep has been given.

    Besides stevegamer, am I the only one who ranks Guhle above Lundkvist? I am Habs fan so maybe my opinion is skewed.

    I also thought Newhook might have some more value or has the hype dropped off?
    While Guhle is perhaps the better option this year I believe the post is about a rebuilding team and the future. That being the case, Lundqvist IMO has considerably more upside than Guhle. As for Newhook, I think he is ranked correctly as a second tier forward. He doesn't appear to have 1st line upside and is very likely a middle six skater moving forward. I think he is ranked correctly behind Perfetti/Johnston/Jarvis and perhaps Kakko.
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    I'm more of a fan of Guhle than Lundqvist for any multi-cat league. I do realize this league is mostly points, but:

    Only power play points and overtime goals count double (or triple if it's an OT PP goal)
    4 PIM = 1 point
    10 Hits + Blocks = 1 point

    The way these guys are pacing so far in this league scoring, that physicality is worth about 15 points. I'm not sure Lundkvist has more than 15 more points of upside than Guhle with Heiskanen as the main PP guy. I feel the gap is close. I realize in categoreis leagues, you get you physicality with bangers, but banger who can score 30-40 in this league should be pretty valuable.
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