It would be quite unfair to change mid-season. Whether it is fine to change next season should depend on support throughout the league in my opinion.
In my first year dynasty league the commissioner stated that prospect draft order would be reverse order for non playoff teams based on regular season and reverse order for playoff teams based on playoff finish.
During the season I traded my first round pick (likely 7th to 8th overall) for Lafreniere and a 2nd round pick (11th overall).
Now several managers are wanting a lottery system. One proposal was for the last place team to get 10 balls, 2nd last 9 balls etc and use a lottery simulator to determine the draft order. In this system my first round pick might have a 5% chance at Bedard. If I had known this, it would have influenced my decision to trade the pick.
I've said it would be unfair to some managers to change mid season and would be fine to implement it for future seasons.
What you you guys think about the fairness of this?
10 team dynasty weekly H2H league no cap
Cats: G, A, PPP, SOG, Hits, Blks, FOW, W, GAA, SV%, SO
3 C, 3 LW, 3 RW, 5 D, 2 Until, 2 G, 4 Bench, 1 NA, 5 IR+ (22 active roster spots)
C: Crosby, Hintz, Cozens (C/RW), Scheifele, Hischier
LW: Draisaitl (C/LW), Forsberg, E Kane, Nelson (C/LW), Benn
RW: Kucherov, Marchessault (LW/RW), Tippett (LW/RW), Jarvis
D: Seider, Hedman, Heiskanen, Chabot, Letang, Ekholm
G: Saros, Thompson, Gustavsson
NA: Levi
IR+: Landeskog, Hamilton
Prospects: Cutter Gauthier, Zellweger, Nemec
It would be quite unfair to change mid-season. Whether it is fine to change next season should depend on support throughout the league in my opinion.
100% agreed. There is no way the process of determining the prospect draft order should be changed midseason, especially this season, after owners have traded picks. Doesn't matter what the majority opinion is. And if 1st rounders were traded for next season then any change should be made for the subsequent season.
10 Team, 60 Player Roster
G, A, PTS, PPP, PIM, BLKs, Hits, +/-, Shots, W, GAA, SV%, Saves
C- JHughes, Trocheck, RThomas, Zegras, Norris, Bennett, PLD, Stephenson, Danualt
RW- Raymond, Stone, TWilson, Toffoli, KJohnson, Nyqvist, Zary
LW- Keller, Schmaltz, Bunting, Skinner, Barbashev, Duclair
D- QHughes, McAvoy, Doughty, Heiskanen, LHughes, Mintyukov
G- Shesterkin, Demko, Andersen, Kahkonen, Levi, Tarasov, Annunen
Notable Prospects- Nikishin, Kulich, Leonard, Wood, Perreault, Lekkermaki, Ostlund, Othmman, REvans, L-Heureux, Ivanov, Murashov
Lottery is best way to go… most my leagues use NHL lottery and sign teams to NHL teams based standings…
But making any changes like this mid season is not fair at all
Complete BS. Time to find another league.
12 team Yahoo Roto keeper (keep 3)
9 F, 6 D; roster 3 G max
G,A,PPP,SOG,BLKS,HITS - W,SO,SV%,Saves
F: B Tkachuk, Stutzle, Eriksson Ek, Necas, Konecny, Cooley, Boldy, Lehkonen, Tippett
D: Dahlin, Seider, Matheson, Durzi, Addison, Mintyukov
G: Hill, Husso
IR:
Bench: L Hughes, Merzlikins, Terry, Tuch
This is completely unacceptable. You can't change a rule of this magnitude midseason.
Even if this doesn’t happen you’re in a league where GMs think this sort of thing is even remotely ok. Leave this league. These people have no fantasy hockey soul.
12 team Yahoo Roto keeper (keep 3)
9 F, 6 D; roster 3 G max
G,A,PPP,SOG,BLKS,HITS - W,SO,SV%,Saves
F: B Tkachuk, Stutzle, Eriksson Ek, Necas, Konecny, Cooley, Boldy, Lehkonen, Tippett
D: Dahlin, Seider, Matheson, Durzi, Addison, Mintyukov
G: Hill, Husso
IR:
Bench: L Hughes, Merzlikins, Terry, Tuch
Nope. Not now. Maybe not even for next season.
ESPN Roto 10 team
24 man roster (+3 IR) - Keep 20 - Daily settings
Start 3C, 3LW, 3RW, 5D, 2G, 1UTIL
G,A,PTS, +/-, PIM, PPA, PPG, D PTS - W, SV, SV%
C- Zegras, Suzuki, Carlsson
RW- Batherson, Michkov, Quinn, Perfetti(C,LW), Foerster, Kakko
LW- BTkachuk, Stutzle(C), Byfield(C), McTavish(C), Benson
D- Mintyukov, Sanderson, LHughes, Clarke, Faber
G- Wolf, Askarov, Wallstedt
IR- Norris(C)
IR- Fantilli(C)
IR-
Picks in 2024/25 rounds 1,1,1,2
Picks in 2025/26 rounds 1,1,3,4
Yeah that’s not even remotely ok. Guys have already made moves for this season and maybe next. I’d say this is at least a two year change that guys dont get duped on 2024 picks if they were at all moved.
I’m with everyone. You can’t do this mid season!!!
League 1
10 team, Dynasty, points only, 30 players, keep20 starts 12 F, 6 D, 2G , unlimited prospects(can keep them max 5 years)
F: Mackinnon,Marner, Panarin, Eichel, Fiala, Hughes, Svechnikov, Robertson, Bratt, Kuznetsov, Hischier, B.Tkachuk, M.Tkachuk, Scheifele, Wheeler, Jenner, Drouin, Tatar, Colton
D:Hughes, Hamilton, Karlsson, Dunn, Burns, Theodore, Slavin, Trouba G: Shesterkin, Binnington, Vanecek
League2
Cap league (82.5M with AAV), points only, 12 teams, keep 7, (9F, 4D, 2G)
F: Hughes, Zuccarello,RNH, Marchessault, Scheifele, Toffoli, O’Reilly, Trocheck, Buchnevich extra: Marchenko
D: Makar, Dahlin, Seider, Andersson
G: Hellebuyck, Talbot
It's fine to do it for a 2024 draft after this season if it passes a league vote and no picks have been traded or all teams agree it's okay with picks having been traded.
It's terrible for 2023.
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How about a different perspective.
We are talking 2 different things here.
1) Changing a process mid season. As a LM. If the spots are set, but not the positioning. If I am not included in the group with a spot, so I have nothing to gain. If the group of GMs who own those spots 100% agree to a lottery.
That lottery would be held regardless of what other GMs want. It does not concern them. It wasn’t planned. It is a one time thing. These GMs have decided to throw caution into the wind. It has no impact on next year.
2) Changing the process for next year.
For most things I agree that a vote is nice and should be done. In the case of a draft lottery, it is one thing I do not. I do not have it in any of my leagues, but it may very well be there next year regardless of my league GMs opinions. In addition it may not be a weighted lottery.
Let me ask: How many different ways have you seen GMs approach the earning first pick? Forgetting to set lines when playing other basement teams. Taking out just best players when playing basement teams leaving open slots. Waiting until after that matchup to use I. R. The list goes on and on. It would save me publicly embarrassing that person to the league when after the 2nd time of warning teams to play to win and they play dumb.
At the end of the day, yes if it is just changing. I agree. Scenario 1 affects a certain few, not everyone. Scenario 2 affects everyone, but so does the erratic play of the lesser teams.
You can never have too much information. You can only ever misuse the information you were given.
i have to ask, are the guys wanting the lottery system, teams that traded away their '23 picks last year, thinking they would be closer to the top of the league, but are now in the bottom and have no top 5 picks for '23? (sour grapes)
i guess regardless, any changes to rules that affect how one manages his/her team need to be made (whether its a vote or not) with the (express) understanding that the result wont take place until one full season is completed between time so mgrs have time to react and plan accordingly..ie any changes made now, wont take effect until '24/'25 season
ESPN Roto 10 team
24 man roster (+3 IR) - Keep 20 - Daily settings
Start 3C, 3LW, 3RW, 5D, 2G, 1UTIL
G,A,PTS, +/-, PIM, PPA, PPG, D PTS - W, SV, SV%
C- Zegras, Suzuki, Carlsson
RW- Batherson, Michkov, Quinn, Perfetti(C,LW), Foerster, Kakko
LW- BTkachuk, Stutzle(C), Byfield(C), McTavish(C), Benson
D- Mintyukov, Sanderson, LHughes, Clarke, Faber
G- Wolf, Askarov, Wallstedt
IR- Norris(C)
IR- Fantilli(C)
IR-
Picks in 2024/25 rounds 1,1,1,2
Picks in 2025/26 rounds 1,1,3,4
I want to agree with most of this post, but I do want to point out that changes during league setup are fine - for hopefully obvious reasons, and that sometimes crap happens that as a commissioner you need to put some sort of rule in place to handle it, and then get a rule locked in during the offseason or sooner. Luckily hockey has fewer of those things, as far as I can tell.
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