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    Question for everyone; how would you tank the following prospects for a keeper league?

    Kasper,
    Kemell,
    Lysell,
    Tomasino,
    Robertson,
    Guenther,
    Krebs,
    Eklund,
    McTavish
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    McTavish
    Guenther
    Eklund
    Krebs
    Lysell
    Kemell
    Robertson
    Kasper
    Tomasino

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    Kasper below N Robertson in a banger league? I think I'd bet on him higher up given most other prospects seem to be on the softer side, and not top talent either. McTavish clear top for me too. No idea how to rank the others.

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    Mctavish
    Guenther
    Eklund
    Kemell
    Kasper
    Lysell
    Robertson
    Tomasion
    Krebs

    If robertson can ever stay healthy i think he has a talent to move up significantly on this list
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    My top 5:

    Guenther
    Kemell
    McTavish
    Eklund
    Kasper
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    My top 5:

    Guenther
    Kemell
    McTavish
    Eklund
    Kasper
    i was definitely struggling with Guenther and Mctavish at 1 and 2...i would not be bit surprised if Guenther is the best player here..Nice seeing respected figure putting him at the top!
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    LW: Ehlers, Landeskog, Meier, Debrusk, Foegele, Lee
    RW: Pastrnak, Marner, Palmieri, Terry, D. Brown, Bailey, Granlund
    D: Krug, Josi, Ekholm, Faulk, Muzzin, Karlsson, Cernak,
    G: Hellebuyck, Biship, M Jones

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    Guenther
    Eklund
    Robertson
    Lysell

    Lysell has to be in it for pure upside. I agree that Robertson has the type of shot , work ethic, and game to go bananas in the NHL- caufield in blue and white. Yall arw crazy high on kemmel- hes playing in the same league and taken a significant step back in production. I've heard scouts say he looks frustrated and like he's skating in mud out there too. Time to turn it around? Sure but he wasn't in my top 5 to begin with and this year and he looks like he's slipped from there even...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belexus75 View Post
    i was definitely struggling with Guenther and Mctavish at 1 and 2...i would not be bit surprised if Guenther is the best player here..Nice seeing respected figure putting him at the top!
    You guys both seemed to be pretty high on Kemell. Kind of curious on this one. He fell significantly and went to a Nashville organization which is notoriously bad for developing their prospects. Do you all think he's good enough for it not to matter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stalinism View Post
    You guys both seemed to be pretty high on Kemell. Kind of curious on this one. He fell significantly and went to a Nashville organization which is notoriously bad for developing their prospects. Do you all think he's good enough for it not to matter?
    While there is definitely something about organization and development of prospects im of a believe that if the player has what it takes, the organization cant stop him from success...Did he fall a lot? yeah i guess he did from final rankings but not from early rankings, he actually was outside of first round about year prior of draft i believe so he rose a lot and then he fell some...

    also he is in Sweden so while im sure Nashville has some say, its not the same as developing in AHL. i like him a lot, i think raw talent is there..i do see him very similar to Eklund who i always saw similar to Holtz..i think all 3 will be 60-70 points players in NHL.
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    C: Eichel, Kadri, Mcdavid, Sodeberg, Schenn
    LW: Ehlers, Landeskog, Meier, Debrusk, Foegele, Lee
    RW: Pastrnak, Marner, Palmieri, Terry, D. Brown, Bailey, Granlund
    D: Krug, Josi, Ekholm, Faulk, Muzzin, Karlsson, Cernak,
    G: Hellebuyck, Biship, M Jones

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stalinism View Post
    You guys both seemed to be pretty high on Kemell. Kind of curious on this one. He fell significantly and went to a Nashville organization which is notoriously bad for developing their prospects. Do you all think he's good enough for it not to matter?
    I'm not sure I'd say he fell significantly. He went midway through the 1st round. Slip some, maybe, but significantly isn't a word I'd use here to describe his draft position.

    What can I tell ya, I like where he landed for opportunity.
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    I don't think its too out of line- he was being talked about top 3 to start the season. Later mid is more than a slip to me thats a first rounder getting drafted in the back half of the second. Were splitting hairs but ftr that's terminology I use all the time with kemmel. I listen to a lot of those podcasts and YouTube channels that tweak their lists all year and kemmel was almost universally talked about in the top 3 (honestly they had him at 1st oa for a decent chunk of time on a lot of channels)- thats a pretty big slide.

    Also there was a real reason he slipped. Scouts identified early that they didn't lime how many low percentage shots he was taking and guessed that his goals would return to the mean when variance sorted itself out... and they did. Thats especially bad because not only were his totals inflated it also meant a big chunk of his goals were scored in a way that realistically would NEVER happen in the first place in the NHL. I get every player is a journey. His shot is good, he's got the iq and wherewithal to get it off- but he has serious warts that really undermine his totals. He needs to go to dirty areas to get higher percentage shots off- and like many prospects he needs to iron out his consistency. Here's the sticking point for me- if you take away 15 of those basically "lucky" goals- is he even a first rounder? The kids a snipe show- i get that but there are very real question marks about getting to the dangerous areas that still are going unanswered. He could pan out- but I feel like sometimes we get attached to a prospect because we saw something early that spoke to an "elite" gear. With kemmel that glimpse was almost certainly an abberation- and the good scouts told us that lol! Listen to will scouch breakdown kemmels game. He gives him credit where its due but he said it was more than a little troubling that he was forcing low percentage shot after low percentage shot. It could speak to low hockey iq, it could speak to a selfish streak- great prospect but he has very real issues.

    I also agree Nashville is brutal for forwards. Id be real careful with jemmel personally.

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    Give me Eklund. That guy is being slept on big time.
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    My Take,

    McTavish
    Eklund,
    Guenther,
    Lysell,
    Kasper,
    Kemell,
    Tomasino,
    Robertson,
    Krebs,

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    McTavish
    Guenther
    Eklund
    Kemell
    Lysell/Kasper

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    Guenther
    McTavish
    Kemell
    Eklund
    Lysell
    Kasper
    Krebs
    Robertson
    Tomasino

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