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    Owner in my league wants a good LW. HAS Asked about my Guentzel & Forsberg. I'm currently in last place in a DYNASTY LG. Probably another year or too b4 contending.
    So obviously looking for youth & probably Defensemen.
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    The only D he has that I'd consider trading one of those guys for is Fox, especially if it's Guentzel he really likes.
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    The much-preferred target here is indeed Fox. However, I suspect the asking price will be significant. It's unlikely Guentzel or Forsberg straight up for Fox would be accepted. I would recommend putting an offer out there as a starting point and see if Fox is available, and if so, at what price. Just a thought, but Morrissey is an excellent sell high option for you as well, and you might want to consider including him in the offer with one of your LW's. It's a stiff price to pay, but Fox and Makar are elite fantasy assets that you will have to pay for, case closed. I would certainly rather have Fox on my roster in 2 or 3 years rather than Morrissey who I believe is having a career year that he won't duplicate.
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    Good ideas. Maybe I could squeeze out a little more to make it a 2 for 2. Fair?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoolandDeadly View Post
    Good ideas. Maybe I could squeeze out a little more to make it a 2 for 2. Fair?
    Sure, as long as you don't get too greedy and piss of the other GM (:
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    Yup! I think bubba’s advice is sound. Package morrissey and one of forsberg or guentzel maybe he’d throw in Holloway as his first season in the NHL hasn’t been as successful as I think many of us had hoped (I still think he’s a legit top sixer who hits) for Fox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubba55 View Post
    Sure, as long as you don't get too greedy and piss of the other GM (:
    Exactly this ^. Be careful on the second piece you ask for. Better to get Fox than lose out altogether.
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    I'd try to get something like Bouchard and Garand for Forsberg.

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    Oettinger & Fox are the only two pieces that starts this conversation.
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    Fox is excellent. In this league, with pim, hits, and sogs and without blocks this year's production is probably close to his ceiling. Which is about the 60th ranked player. He's not a multi-cat stud in a league like this. I'd trade Forsberg for Fox easily, but Guentzel's ceiling in this league is a top 15 player. Not sure I'd do Guentzel for Fox straight up in this league.

    I'd expect Oettinger is a non-starter. The best you can do for immediate replacement production is Murray, and I can't imagine anyone wanting to bank on Murray at the moment. Beyond that his goaltending depth is quite poor.

    I'd consider moving Forsberg for Knight+. Maybe take a flyer on Bouchard as the plus. Maybe a pick as well. You're looking for upside, and Bouchard and Knight both have top tier upside. Whether it's enough is up to you.
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