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    Question Selling Dahlin - How Dumb Would I Be? REP Given!

    For a 15 team points only (G&A) Keep 8 (plus 30 minors up to 105gp) where my keepers are Hintz, Nylander, Batherson, Laine, Keller, Boldy, Dahlin & Oettinger (and I'm not competing this year but will next), would you:

    give Dahlin to get Caufield, Slafkovsky, Zary & a Rookie 1st Rounder (probably about 12th-15th overall).

    Caufield would take Dahlin's place as a keeper, and I could keep Zary & Slaf without losing any prospects of note. Some other possible keepers are have are Matt Murray or even Lehner, Duclair or Iafallo.

    I think I should probably keep Dahlin, but that offer at least has me thinking a bit. What do you fine folks think? Would you do it if Cossa were added in?
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    D - Dahlin, Morrissey, Dunn, Matheson
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    B - Marchessault, Caufield, Teravainen, McCann, Montour, Jones, Saros

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    G - Vasilevskiy, Markstrom
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    tough call

    Dahlin will be studly. but being able to get a few younger dudes is nice too. im not accepting it though. Your keepers look fine to me
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    RW- Batherson, Foerster, Michkov, Kakko, Toffoli
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    Elite D are so rare! Dahlin is just 22, it’s not enough for me
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    F: Mackinnon,Marner, Panarin, Eichel, Fiala, Hughes, Svechnikov, Robertson, Bratt, Kuznetsov, Hischier, B.Tkachuk, M.Tkachuk, Scheifele, Wheeler, Jenner, Drouin, Tatar, Colton
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    F: Hughes, Zuccarello,RNH, Marchessault, Scheifele, Toffoli, O’Reilly, Trocheck, Buchnevich extra: Marchenko
    D: Makar, Dahlin, Seider, Andersson
    G: Hellebuyck, Talbot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dover View Post
    Elite D are so rare! Dahlin is just 22, it’s not enough for me
    this

    Weekly H2H, Points Only, Keeper League - 10 team - Keep 14 (+ 2 rookies, under 25 GP) - dress 12 F, 6 D, 2 G (Wins: 2 pts, OTL: 1 pt, SO: 1 pt) - 30 Roster max w/ 1 IR spot which opens up one roster spot.

    FW: Aho, Eichel, Draisatl, Rantanen, Marchand, Matthews, Kyrou, J. Robertson, Bergeron, Duchene, Boldy, Toffoli, Kempe, Krejci, Schmaltz

    D: Rielly, Heiskenen, Dobson, Drysdale, Byram, Nurse, Weegar, Matheson, Clarke

    G: Andersen, Georgiev, Francouz, Kotchetkov, Wallstedt




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    I wouldn't do that. You also don't mention scoring system. If your league has Hits or Pims or Blocks, then Caufield is a negative there. Dahlin's a mid to late first round pick in many keeper redrafts from this point forward for the next few years. Caufield will not be. Nothing on the other end makes up for that loss, and you're not likely to be able to get another player on Dahlin's level doing a similar deal in the future. The other owner is praying that you'll do this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by senryu View Post
    I wouldn't do that. You also don't mention scoring system. If your league has Hits or Pims or Blocks, then Caufield is a negative there. Dahlin's a mid to late first round pick in many keeper redrafts from this point forward for the next few years. Caufield will not be. Nothing on the other end makes up for that loss, and you're not likely to be able to get another player on Dahlin's level doing a similar deal in the future. The other owner is praying that you'll do this.
    It's points only. Thanks for noticing that - I've fixed it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockies & Hockeys View Post
    For a 15 team points only (G&A) Keep 8 (plus 30 minors up to 105gp) where my keepers are Hintz, Nylander, Batherson, Laine, Keller, Boldy, Dahlin & Oettinger (and I'm not competing this year but will next), would you:

    give Dahlin to get Caufield, Slafkovsky, Zary & a Rookie 1st Rounder (probably about 12th-15th overall).

    Caufield would take Dahlin's place as a keeper, and I could keep Zary & Slaf without losing any prospects of note. Some other possible keepers are have are Matt Murray or even Lehner, Duclair or Iafallo.

    I think I should probably keep Dahlin, but that offer at least has me thinking a bit. What do you fine folks think? Would you do it if Cossa were added in?
    I love Caufield with a passion, though Dahlin is a gem. I wouldn’t call you dumb for doing it, but I think you should get more.
    12 teams. Keep 9 any position.
    7 prospects. D scoring 3.75 for goal, 2.75 for assist. Forwards 3.5 for goal, 2.5 for assist. 0.5 for hits and blocks. Goalie scoring -1.5 GA, 0.3 for save, 2 points for win and extra 2 for shutout.

    ​Pre Draft

    F: Keller, Zegras, Suzuki, Caufield, Cozens

    D:​ Drysdale, Guhle, Perunovich

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    What about this: Beniers, a top 4 overall rookie pick this season (probably 4th overall but there's a lottery for the rookie 1st round this year - this could turn into Bedard OR drop as low as 6th), and two high (probably 3rd & 4th overall) 1st rounders (not rookie draft), and Cam York? Last year a 3rd and 4th overall would have gotten me two of: Reinhart, Hintz, Suzuki & Keller.

    Losing Dahlin and not gaining a player back would also allow me to keep Matt Murray (or whoever else would be a good keep at the end of the season for me - off-season trades are allowed as well and there are some stacked teams which will have very good players they need to trade away).

    Or am I just trying too hard and I should leave Dahlin alone? Haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbfl1987 View Post
    I love Caufield with a passion, though Dahlin is a gem. I wouldn’t call you dumb for doing it, but I think you should get more.
    Mind taking a look at the alternative offer I just described? Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockies & Hockeys View Post
    What about this: Beniers, a top 4 overall rookie pick this season (probably 4th overall but there's a lottery for the rookie 1st round this year - this could turn into Bedard OR drop as low as 6th), and two high (probably 3rd & 4th overall) 1st rounders (not rookie draft), and Cam York? Last year a 3rd and 4th overall would have gotten me two of: Reinhart, Hintz, Suzuki & Keller.

    Losing Dahlin and not gaining a player back would also allow me to keep Matt Murray (or whoever else would be a good keep at the end of the season for me - off-season trades are allowed as well and there are some stacked teams which will have very good players they need to trade away).

    Or am I just trying too hard and I should leave Dahlin alone? Haha.

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    Mind taking a look at the alternative offer I just described? Thanks!
    Given how strong this draft class is, I’d be very tempted to do this one. Beniers is looking like the real deal, too. I can see this one really paying off. Just my two cents.
    12 teams. Keep 9 any position.
    7 prospects. D scoring 3.75 for goal, 2.75 for assist. Forwards 3.5 for goal, 2.5 for assist. 0.5 for hits and blocks. Goalie scoring -1.5 GA, 0.3 for save, 2 points for win and extra 2 for shutout.

    ​Pre Draft

    F: Keller, Zegras, Suzuki, Caufield, Cozens

    D:​ Drysdale, Guhle, Perunovich

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    If you knew you were getting Bedard or Michkov, then maybe. I'm not even thinking about sending Dahlin away so that I could keep Murray.

    Dahlin is at the level now where you just leave him there and forget it. Or put another way, if you redrafted your entire league today, I would want two players coming back who would be top 25 picks in that redraft league now, at a minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by senryu View Post
    If you knew you were getting Bedard or Michkov, then maybe. I'm not even thinking about sending Dahlin away so that I could keep Murray.

    Dahlin is at the level now where you just leave him there and forget it. Or put another way, if you redrafted your entire league today, I would want two players coming back who would be top 25 picks in that redraft league now, at a minimum.
    You're probably right. Thanks for the input!

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    Quote Originally Posted by senryu View Post
    If you knew you were getting Bedard or Michkov, then maybe. I'm not even thinking about sending Dahlin away so that I could keep Murray.

    Dahlin is at the level now where you just leave him there and forget it. Or put another way, if you redrafted your entire league today, I would want two players coming back who would be top 25 picks in that redraft league now, at a minimum.
    This is great perspective on this. I'd recommend you take this advice to heart.
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    This offer is really tempting! But there is the luck factor... You could hit a home run with Bedard/Michkov/Fantilli but there is no guaranty. In Dahlin, you have a top 5 D in the league for the next 10 years! Defenceman like this are so hard to get, I think I would still pass but this offer is way better than the first one
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    You have the sure thing so unless the offer is improved then I’d keep Dahlin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by senryu View Post
    If you knew you were getting Bedard or Michkov, then maybe. I'm not even thinking about sending Dahlin away so that I could keep Murray.

    Dahlin is at the level now where you just leave him there and forget it. Or put another way, if you redrafted your entire league today, I would want two players coming back who would be top 25 picks in that redraft league now, at a minimum.
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    C- Zegras, Suzuki, Carlsson
    RW- Batherson, Foerster, Michkov, Kakko, Toffoli
    LW- BTkachuk, Stutzle(C), Byfield(C), McTavish(C), Benson
    D- Minyukov, Sanderson, LHughes, Clarke, Faber
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