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    I am really torn as to what direction I should take for my keepers this year.

    Points only format - of course I always want to compete this year but also want to set me up for next year as well (i am not worried about after that ; 1-2 year mind set)

    Need to Keep any 3 players

    P.Kane ; Scheifele ; Aho; Stamkos; Debricant; Point ; Marchand ; Hedman ; Carlson ; Vasky (goalie)

    Note: I will note be able to redraft any of these players.

    My current thought process that keeps changing:

    At least one forward which I am leaning for PKane over Aho and others

    For my 2nd forward should I take the chance of keeping Marchand and stash (this is where my next year mind set kicks in) - hopefully a waiver move holds his own until comes back late Nov. At the expense of the other forwards on list?

    Assuming I do the above do I keep Hedman to be my keeper D at the expense of one of those remaining forwards. I would obviously need to sacrifice the goalie with these players available to me for keepers

    Any feedback would be greatly appreciated - as always thank you !
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    I'd keep Vas, Hedman and Stamkos
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    I'm definitely keeping Vas here which leaves room for two players.

    Stamkos and Hedman are probably my choices. I love Marchand but with the injury this year, I can't justify keeping him in a keep 3 league. I can understand wanting to keep Kane as well but if he's stuck in Chicago for half the season, I think you've gor better options to go with.
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    I'm assuming this is for the league in your sig?

    If that's the case, no chance I'm keeping a goalie.

    Not a single goalie hit 40 wins last year & S/O are unpredictable, but even with Markstrom's 9 last season - he would have been the highest scoring goalie in your league, totaling only 64 points....

    I'm also not considering Marchand in a keep 3 when you already have better - healthy options.

    Point is good, I'm just not sure he's in the same tier as the rest of your forwards...

    So the list I'd be narrowing your options down to would be; Kane, Scheifele, Aho, Stammer, Debrincat, Hedman & Carlson.

    For me, I'm looking at Stammer & Aho for your forwards. Best proven surrounding cast, on higher scoring squads.

    I'd lean Hedman over Carlson for D keeper.

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    Vasi, Hedman, Stamkos


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    Carlson, Hedman, Debrincat. Likely not the popular choice though.

    If it's points only, and the goalie stats in your sig. Getting point producing defense is likely the best value for you since it's points only. In a league set up like this, I treat a defenseman vs a forward as the following:

    50pt D = 65pt F
    60pt D = 75pt F
    70pt D = 82pt F
    80pt D = 100pt F

    Josi and Makar are on the levels of Panarin, Gaudreau, and Matthews. Hedman is like Barkov, M.Tkachuk, Debrincat.

    Vas is the equivalent of a 70pt Forward, or a 55pt D. It sucks that goalies are that devalued in the league, but that's what it is.
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    I like Stamkos, Hedman, and Vas.
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    apologize to bump this one again ... In the end I am able to keep 4 (max 2 forwards) so that being said I am keeping Stamkos, Hedman and Vasi for sure like most suggestion but down to my last forward keeper debate (points only) between Pat Kane or Aho ?
    Points only keeper league
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    Line up: 12 F / 6 D / 2 G
    Goalie stats: W=1 / SO=3

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    P Kane

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    The projections I have on both Aho and P. Kane have Aho scoring 295 points and P. Kane scoring 221 points. I would go with Aho.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Caps Crazy View Post
    The projections I have on both Aho and P. Kane have Aho scoring 295 points and P. Kane scoring 221 points. I would go with Aho.
    Isnít it just points only? I was looking at it as Aho being a point per game guy and Kane usually over that. On a bad team but still should put up points and if he gets traded could finish the year strong

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    Between Aho and Kane, I go with Aho. More question marks around Kane and age is a significant factor as you’re also thinking beyond this season.
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    Point over Kane and Stamkos as he's 6-7 years younger and basically a point per game player. He also plays with Kucherov
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    Vasilevskiy

    I know all Tampa players, but stud goalie, d-man and top 40 forward in my opinion

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