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    "Forward Kailer Yamamoto has agreed to terms on a two-year extension with the Edmonton Oilers on Wednesday.

    The deal will carry an average annual value of US$3.1 million.

    Yamamoto, 23, set career highs in games played (81), goals (20), assists (21) and points (41) last season.

    He also notched seven points (two goals, five assists) in 14 playoff games during the Oilers' run to the Western Conference finals.

    A former first-round draft choice of Edmonton in 2017, Yamamoto has recorded 40 goals and 53 assists in 186 career games."
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    The moment Pittsburgh overpaid Kapanen, that pretty much set the bar for Yamamoto and Puljujarvi, or at least created one.
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    At least it's only for 2 years..

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    For better or worse, the Oilers have obviously not given up on Puli or Yamamoto. Puli is is on the shorter leash, I'm a bit surprised Yamamoto got an extra year to "show me".
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    I suspect a big part of the term here is all about team control. Both Puljujarvi and Yamamoto were extended the maximum amount of years without walking them to UFA. Yes, these are "prove it deals" but it's also about keeping the hit as low as possible while they still have control, while keeping open the possibility of extending them in the future under more favourable terms or being able to trade them while still being able to sell "team control" beyond this season. No doubt the Oilers are very happy with Yamamoto. From the sounds of it, McDavid and Draisaitl both love playing with him, because of his doggedness on the forecheck and turning over pucks. Why that love doesn't carry over to Puljujarvi is a mystery, but maybe it's simply a matter of omission by reporters, or perhaps the rumours of frustration with Puljujarvi's lack of finishing are true.

    In any case, I'm sure the Oilers would've extended Puljujarvi longer, if they had more years of team control, but given all the bumps in the road, they didn't want to walk him to free agency. Plus, the player gets another chance to prove he can be a top-6 guy on a one-year.

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    The bigger deal, is now that these deals have come in, the Oilers are above the cap. Even with Smith and Klefbom inevitably hitting LTIR they are still capped out with McLeod yet to re-sign. Not that this is surprising. The deals did come in a little richer than suspected but they were going to go over either way. Who gets traded away now? Puljujarvi? Barrie? Foegele? Might they have to resort to a buyout (which they just opened up a 2nd window for with these re-signings)?

    I suspect a buyout is unlikely. There's no obvious candidate.

    I think most would want Foegele traded. He didn't produce much and is a luxury item as a bottom-6 forward. They basically can't be paying guys like this above $1.5M. They also have Holloway likely ready to contribute in that same spot on an ELC. But does another team need Foegele?

    Barrie makes even more sense to move. Bouchard is more than ready for his PP1 minutes. Otherwise, Barrie's just a veteran third pairing guy. You paid him for some certainty at the position while Bouchard was having hiccups. Now we know Bouchard can swim. Same problem with Barrie as with Foegele, if Edmonton can see Barrie's a luxury item, then likely everyone else can too and no one has cap space. Also, I think management would be reticent to subtract another veteran from the blue line. Barrie would be gone already had Keith not retired (or perhaps Kulak not re-signed). I suspect that even if a cheap RHD vet were signed, they'd still want to keep Barrie for continuity, so say a Subban for 900K signing wouldn't be the sign that they are dealing Barrie.

    This all makes me think that Puljujarvi is still likely to be moved. Any team holding onto cap space and willing to take on salary is going to go for a young analytical darling like Puljujarvi. Otherwise, they'd be asking futures to take on veteran salary, not giving them up.

    But maybe Edmonton just rides this out, and injuries allow them to manage their way through this. They don't exactly have the roster depth to deal with many injuries, but if one hits and it buys them time, then perhaps another team loses a player for the season and suddenly has an urgent need that the Oilers can address. Until then, we wait for this other shoe to drop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by metaldude26 View Post
    I suspect a big part of the term here is all about team control. Both Puljujarvi and Yamamoto were extended the maximum amount of years without walking them to UFA. Yes, these are "prove it deals" but it's also about keeping the hit as low as possible while they still have control, while keeping open the possibility of extending them in the future under more favourable terms or being able to trade them while still being able to sell "team control" beyond this season. No doubt the Oilers are very happy with Yamamoto. From the sounds of it, McDavid and Draisaitl both love playing with him, because of his doggedness on the forecheck and turning over pucks. Why that love doesn't carry over to Puljujarvi is a mystery, but maybe it's simply a matter of omission by reporters, or perhaps the rumours of frustration with Puljujarvi's lack of finishing are true.

    In any case, I'm sure the Oilers would've extended Puljujarvi longer, if they had more years of team control, but given all the bumps in the road, they didn't want to walk him to free agency. Plus, the player gets another chance to prove he can be a top-6 guy on a one-year.

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    The bigger deal, is now that these deals have come in, the Oilers are above the cap. Even with Smith and Klefbom inevitably hitting LTIR they are still capped out with McLeod yet to re-sign. Not that this is surprising. The deals did come in a little richer than suspected but they were going to go over either way. Who gets traded away now? Puljujarvi? Barrie? Foegele? Might they have to resort to a buyout (which they just opened up a 2nd window for with these re-signings)?

    I suspect a buyout is unlikely. There's no obvious candidate.

    I think most would want Foegele traded. He didn't produce much and is a luxury item as a bottom-6 forward. They basically can't be paying guys like this above $1.5M. They also have Holloway likely ready to contribute in that same spot on an ELC. But does another team need Foegele?

    Barrie makes even more sense to move. Bouchard is more than ready for his PP1 minutes. Otherwise, Barrie's just a veteran third pairing guy. You paid him for some certainty at the position while Bouchard was having hiccups. Now we know Bouchard can swim. Same problem with Barrie as with Foegele, if Edmonton can see Barrie's a luxury item, then likely everyone else can too and no one has cap space. Also, I think management would be reticent to subtract another veteran from the blue line. Barrie would be gone already had Keith not retired (or perhaps Kulak not re-signed). I suspect that even if a cheap RHD vet were signed, they'd still want to keep Barrie for continuity, so say a Subban for 900K signing wouldn't be the sign that they are dealing Barrie.

    This all makes me think that Puljujarvi is still likely to be moved. Any team holding onto cap space and willing to take on salary is going to go for a young analytical darling like Puljujarvi. Otherwise, they'd be asking futures to take on veteran salary, not giving them up.

    But maybe Edmonton just rides this out, and injuries allow them to manage their way through this. They don't exactly have the roster depth to deal with many injuries, but if one hits and it buys them time, then perhaps another team loses a player for the season and suddenly has an urgent need that the Oilers can address. Until then, we wait for this other shoe to drop.
    Great post. I don't like moving Barrie given Keith's retirement.
    That means one of Foegele, JP and Yamo is getting traded. Oilers preference would be to dump Foegele for nothing, or a small asset loss, that would give depth of both JP and Yamo for at least a year, see if one can prove something positive etc. but if Foegele cannot be moved then all signs point to JP getting shipped out. That was before Yamo got signed and now having Yamo cost certainty for 2-years just re-affirms the idea JP is more likely to get traded in my view.
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    im ok with JP getting moved, he fits teh "i need a new place" mold, and as others have said this deal almost seals it really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by metaldude26 View Post
    I suspect a big part of the term here is all about team control. Both Puljujarvi and Yamamoto were extended the maximum amount of years without walking them to UFA. Yes, these are "prove it deals" but it's also about keeping the hit as low as possible while they still have control, while keeping open the possibility of extending them in the future under more favourable terms or being able to trade them while still being able to sell "team control" beyond this season. No doubt the Oilers are very happy with Yamamoto. From the sounds of it, McDavid and Draisaitl both love playing with him, because of his doggedness on the forecheck and turning over pucks. Why that love doesn't carry over to Puljujarvi is a mystery, but maybe it's simply a matter of omission by reporters, or perhaps the rumours of frustration with Puljujarvi's lack of finishing are true.

    In any case, I'm sure the Oilers would've extended Puljujarvi longer, if they had more years of team control, but given all the bumps in the road, they didn't want to walk him to free agency. Plus, the player gets another chance to prove he can be a top-6 guy on a one-year.

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    The bigger deal, is now that these deals have come in, the Oilers are above the cap. Even with Smith and Klefbom inevitably hitting LTIR they are still capped out with McLeod yet to re-sign. Not that this is surprising. The deals did come in a little richer than suspected but they were going to go over either way. Who gets traded away now? Puljujarvi? Barrie? Foegele? Might they have to resort to a buyout (which they just opened up a 2nd window for with these re-signings)?

    I suspect a buyout is unlikely. There's no obvious candidate.

    I think most would want Foegele traded. He didn't produce much and is a luxury item as a bottom-6 forward. They basically can't be paying guys like this above $1.5M. They also have Holloway likely ready to contribute in that same spot on an ELC. But does another team need Foegele?

    Barrie makes even more sense to move. Bouchard is more than ready for his PP1 minutes. Otherwise, Barrie's just a veteran third pairing guy. You paid him for some certainty at the position while Bouchard was having hiccups. Now we know Bouchard can swim. Same problem with Barrie as with Foegele, if Edmonton can see Barrie's a luxury item, then likely everyone else can too and no one has cap space. Also, I think management would be reticent to subtract another veteran from the blue line. Barrie would be gone already had Keith not retired (or perhaps Kulak not re-signed). I suspect that even if a cheap RHD vet were signed, they'd still want to keep Barrie for continuity, so say a Subban for 900K signing wouldn't be the sign that they are dealing Barrie.

    This all makes me think that Puljujarvi is still likely to be moved. Any team holding onto cap space and willing to take on salary is going to go for a young analytical darling like Puljujarvi. Otherwise, they'd be asking futures to take on veteran salary, not giving them up.

    But maybe Edmonton just rides this out, and injuries allow them to manage their way through this. They don't exactly have the roster depth to deal with many injuries, but if one hits and it buys them time, then perhaps another team loses a player for the season and suddenly has an urgent need that the Oilers can address. Until then, we wait for this other shoe to drop.
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    Assuming Holloway makes the team and McLeod signs a cheap 1yr deal around 1.25mil, they'll need to add a cheap forward as well as replace JP/Foegele with another forward who's making around a mil.
    Oil might be willing to add to Foegele/Barrie if they are getting someone young and cheap who look like legit NHL'ers.

    Borgen and Asplund come to mind.

    Ottawa might take Foegele in exchange for one of their young-ish checkers (Gambrell, Kelly).
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