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    Hello!

    League in signature. Other GM is tight in terms of salary. I’d have the opportunity to trade either Dach or Newhook + a high pick (I think a 2nd round would do it) for either Nylander or Ehlers.

    I really like Newhook, might be a few years away. We might find out sooner for Dach, but the odds are not as great. Realistically the hope for both of them is to become what Nylander and Ehlers are right now.

    The trade make lots of sense to me, but I have to be prepared to include one of my 1st rounder (I own 2nd and 3rd overall). In a keep 12, 11 GM, we start with Konecny type players in 1st round + top drafted rookies.

    Would you do the trade, and who would it be.

    Thx!!!
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    F: MacKinnon, Nylander, Larkin, B. Tkachuk, Eriksson EK, S. Jarvis, Newhook, T. Thompson, Nichuskin, Keller, Raddysh, Tippett, Berggren
    D: Chabot,
    Byram, Durzi, Sandin
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    Default Re: Nylander or Ehlers for Dach or Newhook +

    Man, if you have the opportunity to move Dach and a 2nd for either of those guys, you do it. Dach will be lucky to ever hit 60 points as he will never be more than 2C and 2nd PP in Montreal. Nylander would have a slight edge over Ehlers for me.
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    Default Re: Nylander or Ehlers for Dach or Newhook +

    Either guy is a nice win for you. Heartbeat trade to get Ehlers or Nylander. Good luck.
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    Default Re: Nylander or Ehlers for Dach or Newhook +

    Send Dach away as soon as you can for either of those guys.

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    i prefer Nylander over Ehlers and prefer to give up Dach over Newhook however any combination works as long as its 2nd round pick and not first that his high or has a chance to be high in 2023
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    Default Re: Nylander or Ehlers for Dach or Newhook +

    If you can move Dach you do this immediately before the other GM wakes up.
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    Following few discussions, it will have to be Newhook. Because of his cap situation, he really wants those 2 ELC years.

    Pick still up for discussions. Realistically, I need to be ready for this:
    - Newhook + 3rd overall
    - Nylander

    Again, 11GM keep 12, so the 1st round you get to pick in the 130ish plus the newly drafted kids. Few hidden gems…
    I’d still have the 2nd overall and a good rest of the draft.

    Would you do it?

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    Default Re: Nylander or Ehlers for Dach or Newhook +

    UPDATE!

    My:
    - Dach
    - 3rd overall*

    For his:
    - Nylander
    - 7th round pick

    *note that I also have the 2nd overall, so I still have a good draft.

    Thoughts?

    Of what I can read, it’s an easy Yay.

    Thx!
    League 1:
    2022-23 Champ!
    Keep 12, Points only, Salary CAP 96M$, 11 teams. 10 F, 4 D, 1 G + 5 bench
    Weekly lineup (H2H), 3 FA/year
    F: MacKinnon, Nylander, Larkin, B. Tkachuk, Eriksson EK, S. Jarvis, Newhook, T. Thompson, Nichuskin, Keller, Raddysh, Tippett, Berggren
    D: Chabot,
    Byram, Durzi, Sandin
    G: Hill, Schmid

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    Default Re: Nylander or Ehlers for Dach or Newhook +

    Are you competing or in a rebuild? Because in two years if Nylander keeps this up he might be pricey and those ELC contracts for top 3 picks could be really swell for your rebuild and cap situation.

    Since you have the 2nd overall I'm inclined to consider that deal, if you want to compete. With the second overall you could gamble on Michkov and hope he comes over earlier than his KHL contract suggests. Then with that third pick, atm it could be Fantilli or maybe Dvorsky? Although it seems there have been some other risers, as there always is a year away from the draft. But I think Bedard and Michkov are the cream of the crop.

    So, Dach and Fantilli/Dvorsky for Nylander and a 7th round pick. Nylander has 2 more years at 6.9 which is nice if he keeps it at ppg or around that. I guess you're hoping those young guys can produce like Nylander, realistically. Bedard/Michkov are a different story imo so if you can get one of them, you're laughing. But I do get a sense Fantilli would be a top guy in a lot of drafts that didn't have Bedard/Michkov. He had astronomical production in the USHL this year, a league where d-1 Savoie was around ppg, Fantilli had 74 points in 54 games with perfectly split goals to assists, he was an even split goals to assists in both of his USHL seasons.. Although it should be noted that the Chicago Steel are a powerhouse.

    So, I dunno, I like the potential you have if you are rebuilding with pick 2 and 3 in a very strong draft.. But if you want to compete this season and next, Nylander could really help you there and I'm just so unsure about Dach at this point. I never really like trading top 3 picks in good drafts, especially in salary leagues, but I guess it depends where you think your team is at.

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    Default Re: Nylander or Ehlers for Dach or Newhook +

    Quick update.

    I wanted to wait fir training camp before trading Dach. Even though my faith in him is almost at zero… I was curious.

    So I paid a 1st round pick for this year (3rd overall) for Nylander… that’s it
    I still have the 2nd overall, so I will have a good draft even after the trade.

    Thx for your input!
    League 1:
    2022-23 Champ!
    Keep 12, Points only, Salary CAP 96M$, 11 teams. 10 F, 4 D, 1 G + 5 bench
    Weekly lineup (H2H), 3 FA/year
    F: MacKinnon, Nylander, Larkin, B. Tkachuk, Eriksson EK, S. Jarvis, Newhook, T. Thompson, Nichuskin, Keller, Raddysh, Tippett, Berggren
    D: Chabot,
    Byram, Durzi, Sandin
    G: Hill, Schmid

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