Campbell vs Kuemper

[Yonald]

Both are UFAs so hard to predict which will go to a better team.

If you had to pick 1 without knowing where they end up who would it be?

[Daydream Nation]

Kuemper quite easily but I think the two are pretty close overall.

[pmorrow]

Kuemper is probably the better goalie but honestly if you can wait I would. If, say, Campbell lands in Colorado and Kuemper lands in Detroit...

[Belexus75]

pure talent, i actually prefer Campbell. However i think there is much higher chance that Kuemper stays than Campbell, thats why if i had to choose today it would be Kuemper. Team matters tons and as Pmorrow said, you are best off to wait, problem is they be more expensive once you know they landed on good team.

i just had this conversation yesterday in one of my leagues where someone tried to trade me Kuemper for Marner. I looked it up and last year Kuemper was 25th if i remember and Grubeaur was 2nd best goalie in the league in taht particular set up. This past year, Kuemper was 5th and Grubs was 24th. Yes goalies need to be good for teams to be good, but good team overall helps goalies. IF you put Vasil on Arizona, he maybe better than anybody else who would play there but he be lucky to rank as top 15 goalie overall.

[Axeman33]

Kuemper is probably the better goalie but honestly if you can wait I would. If, say, Campbell lands in Colorado and Kuemper lands in Detroit...

I dont think Detroit is investing in a goalie but who knows. I think they are happy with Nedeljkovic going forward but Stevie Y could surprise.

As far as the OP goes, I think both will end up on decent teams. Neither guy has shown they can stay healthy so there's a big health risk with each guy. If I were going to invest in one, it would probably be Kuemper.

[pmorrow]

I dont think Detroit is investing in a goalie but who knows. I think they are happy with Nedeljkovic going forward but Stevie Y could surprise.

As far as the OP goes, I think both will end up on decent teams. Neither guy has shown they can stay healthy so there's a big health risk with each guy. If I were going to invest in one, it would probably be Kuemper.

Detroit was probably not the best example. I doubt Kuemper lands on a bad team tbh. Chances are good Kuemper has more playoff team options than Campbell, but until we see the landing spots who knows. Also depends if those teams have good backups that eat into starts.

[stevegamer]

In your format team situation is almost more important than the goalie. You have wins, which are mostly a team stat, and shutouts which are mostly a goalie stat - and rare.

If I had to pick now, I think Campbell is more likely to stay on the Leafs than Kuemper on the Avalanche, and Campbell will have less competition in whomever is there than Francouz. So I'd take Campbell. However, I'd prefer not to make that call right now.

[Bubba55]

Neither one of these guys is going to turn the team they go to in the right direction with stellar goaltending from start to finish. It will very likely be the other way around if it happens at all. So, it all depends on where these guys land as many others have said. If I have to pick one it's Kuemper, he has demonstrated that he can thrive in a favorable environment. I think if his asking price is at all reasonable the Av's would welcome Kuemper back. I can't really say the same for Campbell, he let a good situation in Toronto seemingly slip though his fingers, if the Leafs have lost confidence in him as their starter and let him walk, which seems to be the way the wind is blowing, he is leaving a good environment for the unknown. I have more confidence in a good situation for Kuemper than I do with Campbell. We'll see, all conjecture at this point.

[Daydream Nation]

Neither one of these guys is going to turn the team they go to in the right direction with stellar goaltending from start to finish. It will very likely be the other way around if it happens at all. So, it all depends on where these guys land as many others have said. If I have to pick one it's Kuemper, he has demonstrated that he can thrive in a favorable environment. I think if his asking price is at all reasonable the Av's would welcome Kuemper back. I can't really say the same for Campbell, he let a good situation in Toronto seemingly slip though his fingers, if the Leafs have lost confidence in him as their starter and let him walk, which seems to be the way the wind is blowing, he is leaving a good environment for the unknown. I have more confidence in a good situation for Kuemper than I do with Campbell. We'll see, all conjecture at this point.

While I agree about Kuemper, I don't really think Campbell let an opportunity slip through his fingers. He came to Toronto as a 1B at best and is probably leaving as a 4.5 M goalie, 1A starter. I don't blame him for Toronto losing in the playoffs the last two seasons. If he doesn't resign with Toronto it's because the price is too high.

And while I didn't mention it in my original post since the OP said to choose without knowing where the goalies would end up, these two are close enough where the team makes all the difference in which one you'd choose. If Keumper resigns with Colorado and Campbell signs in NJ then it's Kuemper by a mile.

[tweetdrivr]

I’d pick Campbell given and choice with unknown destinations.

[J0e Th0rnton]

Kuemper isn't staying in Colorado unless he takes 5 million or less. Sakic may not even offer him that much. he resigned Francouz for 2 years for a reason. The Avs are winning despite kuemper, not because of him. Sakic sees a goalie putting up below average numbers and knows his team can win with an average goalie.

As a 32 year old who just had a career year, I can't see him taking anything less than a hefty raise on his last chance to have a good contract after years as a backup.