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    Default 14 man first year league

    This is a first year league with about 10 competitive gms and 2 inactive GM’s. Our commish made a mistake when selecting the time for playoffs so our playoffs start next week Feb 28th and ends in 3 weeks. We tried to extend it but some GM’s were like they made strategic draft choice bc they assumed that the playoffs would start next week.

    Now Gm in 10th (A) seed makes a trade with Gm in 4th (B). Trade deadline was Feb 24th so trade was submitted on the 23 rd.
    A sends Tavares, Reaves, Clutterbuck
    B sends McCann, Stutzle, Cirelli

    We currently have a veto system and needs 5 GM’s to veto to stop the trade. So this trade got vetoed bc McCann was picked up of FA on Feb 23rd, Stutzle value going down when Norris and Batherson returns and Cirllei have been irrelevant since Tampa’s big guns returned. GM A is in 10th spot and I’m thinking he made the trade bc he used up 38 of 40 moves and is trading hit specialist for borderline roster worthy players for Tavares.

    Thoughts?

    I know that trade deadline needs to be at least two weeks before playoffs. Is this veto worthy and collusion when it seems like GM is in 10th spot and has a mathematical chance of making playoffs but not realistic.

    Thank you for your opinion.

    League: H2H, 1 year, 14 teams, no keepers, 3 FA pick-ups / week, unlimited trades. 40 max season
    Categories: G, A, Pp, SHP, FW, SOG, Hits, Blocks, Wins, GAA, saves, SHO
    Positions: 2xC, 2xLW, 2xRW, 3xD, 1 Utility 2xG, 4xBN, IR+, IR+

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    Default Re: 14 man first year league

    You only use Veto's if its obvious collusion and this is not. Unless I could see the complete Rosters and see no logical reason for the moves. If a manager is making 1 last kick at the can by shaking his team up, its a different story. How mathematically unlikely is he from making 8th from 10th?

    is Tavares the best player in the deal? Yes. but Reaves and Clutterbuck are more waiver drop likely than McCann. They don't score anything but hits and hurt you elsewhere. You don't carry 2 players like that. You carry 1, usually a Defenseman who also blocks a ton of shots like Ferraro or Romanov. A player like Tolvanen with scoring upside, PP time and lots of shots to go with his hits is different.

    McCann is actually a good tertiary player by these categories in a 14 team league and him being a FA speaks to the quality of the GM's, not the player. His weakness is +/- and that is not a category. He wins a secondary amount of FOW from LW, shoots a lot and is a top PP guy for Seattle as well as their leading scorer. Kucherov returned on January 6th. In the 15 games since, Cirelli has 4 goals and 5 assists for 9 points, 78 FOW, 34 SOG. That's not "Doing nothing". That's more than Reaves or Clutterbuck have done all year almost, except for hit specialist. Stuezle is the worst performer in the deal, but hot lately, but Batherson and norris have no timetable for return yet, which means they may miss most of your playoffs.

    In any case, I stand by what i said. Veto should never be used unless its obvious collusion and this doesn't meet the bar for me. its not McDavid for 3 shrubs. Its a superstar player with only C eligibility and 2 hit specialists who should not be on the same team who can't score for 3 Depth scorers with dual eligibility.
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