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    Default Would you do this?

    In a cap league, trade

    1. Pettersson + Nils Lundqvist for Scheifele

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    2. Point + Nils Lundqvist for Scheifele

    Scheifele has $6.125 for next 3 years
    Pettersson has ??? for next ??? years
    Point is $6.75 this year but goes up to $9.5 next year.

    Nils is cheap for the next 3 years and I have high expectations of him, Fox being a barrier notwithstanding.

    Scheifele is the oldest of the 3 but at 28 he still has at least 3 or 4 years of top performance. In 3 to 5 years, though ... EP might be way ahead of Scheifele and the latter would not be a bargain anymore.
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    Default Re: Would you do this?

    I like the EP and Lundqvist side of the equation. Like you said maybe in a couple of years EP out produces Scheifle.
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    Default Re: Would you do this?

    The big problem here is not knowing what EP will sign for or for how long. That said, I have my doubts that the Nucks throw the kind of money the Bolts did at Point. BUT, that's just a guess. The better value contract is critical here and at this point we just don't know. Adding Lundvist is very nice, I too have high expectations for him and we'll see whether Fox is in the way or not, I don't consider it a given beyond this coming season. So, all I can say is taking EP and Nils is the way I would go with the understanding that EP's contract is rolling the dice a bit. Depends on your appetite for risk.
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    Personally, I think Brayden Point is a better and more secure NHL player than Pettersson.
    And you do get the one year (this year) at $6.75m... that's great.
    I might be seeing the wrong games, but Pettersson hasn't been mind-blowing for talent upside... for me.

    Scheifele for 3yrs at $6.125m is the best bang-for-buck value here.
    (Way better than Point at $9.5m... way better than Pettersson, at, say $8.8m or $9.0m... seeing Kaprizov - a wing - get $9m... makes Pettersson seem like he has right to command same. It actually wouldn't surprise me to see him get exactly the same deal as Kaprizov: 5x$9m.)


    1. If a team is primed to compete and needs production per dollar: Scheifele for 3yrs is my pick. He's so steady.
    2. If a team is nowhere near competing and is waiting on growth: Point+Lundqvist. (I think Nils is roadblocked by Fox though... and eventually D-men get overpaid for most cap leagues, so I don't love Nils long-term when he gets $6m+ after his ELC.)

    I don't want Pettersson, personally, not at $9m.

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    Default Re: Would you do this?

    Thanks all for your thoughts.

    I'm the one that would be getting Scheifele in this deal. I hate that I don't know what EP's next contract will be like. If he signs for $9m then I agree with Pengwin but if he signs for $7.5 for 3 years, that would be different.
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    i would not trade point + Nils or EP + Nils for schefiele...

    im very high on Lundkvist and i think it would be a mistake to add him to a deal just for a marginal improvement, if any, at C.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belexus75 View Post
    i would not trade point + Nils or EP + Nils for schefiele...

    im very high on Lundkvist and i think it would be a mistake to add him to a deal just for a marginal improvement, if any, at C.
    Thanks. We have no positional requirements other than F and D.
    My only motivation for this move is cap space.

    And I am high on Nils too, hence my hesitation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VincentVega View Post
    Thanks. We have no positional requirements other than F and D.
    My only motivation for this move is cap space.

    And I am high on Nils too, hence my hesitation.
    well we dont even know yet what EP will get....point and schefiele are about even this year....so doing this move for 22-23 league without having a look at Lundkvist first is not a good idea imo

    its very possible that you would regret this move before it even effects your cap in any way...im sure you can drop some plug D that makes 3-4 mil and insert lundkvist in that spot year from now and your problem be solved....dont think ahead with your cap...treat it year by year.
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    Default Re: Would you do this?

    Quote Originally Posted by VincentVega View Post
    Thanks all for your thoughts.

    I'm the one that would be getting Scheifele in this deal. I hate that I don't know what EP's next contract will be like. If he signs for $9m then I agree with Pengwin but if he signs for $7.5 for 3 years, that would be different.

    I don't think he'll sign for less than $8.5 even on a 3-year deal, and even if he does sign for 7.5 I think Peng's point is still valid. Assuming you're very competitive right now, I'd make the EP/Nils trade for Scheifele, but keep Point.

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    Default Re: Would you do this?

    Agree with most. Scheifele is the one of the best bang for your buck deals in NHL. Nils will be blocked by Fox and I don’t see Rangers going with 2D on 1PP line.

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    Default Re: Would you do this?

    Well, the other GM changed his mind about Pettersson.

    Now he just wants Point + a draft pick for Scheifele.
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    I traded Point for Scheifele and swapped 1st round picks. I get this year's 16th OA and I give up my 1st next year, which is very likely going to be bottom 3 as I have one of the top teams.
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