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    Well, that's another debate but I think he's been mismanaged by Montreal so far, and based on potential alone, it'd be foolish to call him a bust.
    I'd have drafted 3 or 4 guys ahead of him (that's a third debate ) but even if he's not worth 6.1M (agreed) he's worth more than whatever Bergevin was trying to lowball him for.
    Renaud Lavoie says his 'sources' think his value was max 2M, which might explain why he signed this offer sheet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lusshouse View Post
    Well, that's another debate but I think he's been mismanaged by Montreal so far, and based on potential alone, it'd be foolish to call him a bust.
    I'd have drafted 3 or 4 guys ahead of him (that's a third debate ) but even if he's not worth 6.1M (agreed) he's worth more than whatever Bergevin was trying to lowball him for.
    Renaud Lavoie says his 'sources' think his value was max 2M, which might explain why he signed this offer sheet.
    Well, to be fair, that's how most of these negotiations work, especially for RFAs who don't have arbitration rights. So good on KK to have signed this offer, he's the real winner here!

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    I love the trolling nature of this, but the Hurricanes had to first botch their offseason to get here. Like, they wouldn't pay Hamilton or Nedeljkovic so now they are using their cap space to troll? I dunno, I'd rather have just paid Hamilton.
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    Canes are on the wrong direction again….They think they will make a playoff push with Andersen (ask Leaf’s fans). They should concentrated on the right position and not KK. But its funny,… and bringing new discussion…As a Habs fan, will enjoy that new chapter this coming week
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    The one Hab page I'm on was all too excited to get the 1st and 3rd for KK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by metaldude26 View Post
    I love the trolling nature of this, but the Hurricanes had to first botch their offseason to get here. Like, they wouldn't pay Hamilton or Nedeljkovic so now they are using their cap space to troll? I dunno, I'd rather have just paid Hamilton.
    While I do love that we've now had another offer sheet, hard to argue with MD here.

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    Why does Carolina do this other than to get back at Montreal?
    Why does Kotkaniemi sign this other than to get back at Montreal?
    Bergevin probably won’t match just to get back at Carolina lol.

    I just don’t understand this at all for Carolina or KK.

    KK is what 3C now in Carolina, behind Aho & Trocheck.
    Heck even JStaal is ahead of him.

    Carolina probably just say this at a 6.1M marketing opportunity.
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    KK gets 6.1m that he would never otherwise have gotten lol. That's why he would sign.
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    So he gets 1 year of payment and a bad reputation to go with it.

    Agreeing to sign a contact with a 20.00$ signing bonus shows so little class and respect.

    Anyways outside of KK getting paid none of this makes sense other than pettiness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evans334 View Post
    So he gets 1 year of payment and a bad reputation to go with it.

    Agreeing to sign a contact with a 20.00$ signing bonus shows so little class and respect.

    Anyways outside of KK getting paid none of this makes sense other than pettiness.
    Do you work for a living? If so and another firm in your industry offered you a one year contract for 3 or 4 times more than what you current employer is offering you and then a guarantee of another year at the same price (or a different offer that you agree to), would you sign it?

    I doubt any team/player/coach is going to think less of him because he was offered way more than he's worth. Both his teammates (on either team) as well as all of the other players in the league, are very happy with this contract. It just drove up the contract price on all of his comparable players. Which is pretty much every player in the league as he's a replacement level player (with potential).

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    How soon we forget. The Habs showed zero class and respect when they drafted Mailloux. They deserve every middle finger they get. I’d be happy to slap KK on the back for giving them one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by metaldude26 View Post
    I love the trolling nature of this, but the Hurricanes had to first botch their offseason to get here. Like, they wouldn't pay Hamilton or Nedeljkovic so now they are using their cap space to troll? I dunno, I'd rather have just paid Hamilton.
    I mostly agree, however, they could've tried this before losing Hamilton & Nedeljkovic. Probably would've hamstrung both them & Montreal a bit, and likely for less money.

    Quote Originally Posted by evans334 View Post
    So he gets 1 year of payment and a bad reputation to go with it.
    Getting a pay raise from a competitor shouldn't cause a bad reputation - but this is Montreal, and he's not a francophone. As other noted, I do love the trolling aspect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by berni67 View Post
    On CapFriendly, there is 4,5 M$ available
    they also dont need 23 skaters on a roster. send 2 league minimum guys down np
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    Quote Originally Posted by evans334 View Post
    So he gets 1 year of payment and a bad reputation to go with it.

    Agreeing to sign a contact with a 20.00$ signing bonus shows so little class and respect.

    Anyways outside of KK getting paid none of this makes sense other than pettiness.
    Trocheck is UFA in a year, not a lock they keep him. If they believe they have their insurance young second line centre then i dont see an issue

    your complaints are subjective at best. i believe carolina believes in KK and im sure the finn's currently on the team have something to do with it
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    Hockey fans really have a warped view of “class”. Man. I don’t know how any minor things makes someone classless. The drafting of Mailloux was tone deaf, embarrassing, and probably classless. Signing a contract with a funny signing bonus is none of those things.

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