Vasi & Shesterkin for me, but that's just because I've been burnt by Lehner before.
Don't think you can go wrong with any either of them, so are you able to trade one for returns?
I'm in an 8 team Roto league where we protect 8 players with a max of 2 goalies.
Last year I traded from strengths to shore up my net and now have to decide on 2 to protect.
Vasilevskiy is a no brainer, but I'm stuck on the other 2.
I suspect Lehner will have a banner year if he remains healthy and a Vezina nomination. Shesterkin is a guy I planned to build around for the future but I think the team is 2 years away from being truly elite.
My roster is in a good place to win for 1-4 years and given the shallow nature of the league re-builds can happen in 1-2 years.
Do I cut bait on Igor or do I hold onto him for the long haul?
Thanks in advance.
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C:MacKinnon, Barkov, Chandler, Thomas
LW: B. Tkachuk, A.Svechnikov, E. Kane, Laine
RW: Kucherov, Fiala, Kyrou, Buchnevich
D: Hamilton, Morrisey, Nurse, McAvoy, Dahlin, Gustaffson, Schenn
G: Shesterkin, Knight, DeSmith, Demko
Vasi & Shesterkin for me, but that's just because I've been burnt by Lehner before.
Don't think you can go wrong with any either of them, so are you able to trade one for returns?
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i keep shesterkin since you have more chance to see lehner be available then shesterkin
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I'd stick to your plan and build around Shesterkin .
Sherterkin for me too.
Lehner will be a great option for this coming season. Vegas will be a top team and Lehner has no competition in net. That said, in keeper leagues Shesterkin is my #2 ranked goalie after Vasilevskiy and I don't think his numbers will be all that different from Lehner's for the upcoming season. Lehner will likely have more wins, but that isn't enough for me to give up on Shesterkin's future value.
If I were you, I'd be looking to deal Lehner to strengthen your team elsewhere.
12 team, H2H, salary cap
1 pt/G or A, 2 pts/W, 1 pt/OTL, 1 pt/SO
Forward: B. Point, M. Necas, A. Debrincat, T. Zegras, J. Bratt, L. Raymond
Defense: J. Morrissey, A. DeAngelo, S. Gostisbehere, D. Doughty
Goalie: T. Demko, E. Merzlikins
Bench: M. Rossi, C. Glass, M. Maccelli, M. Dumba, K. Shattenkirk, F. Andersen
Prospects of Note: L. Stankoven, J. Lekkerimaki, D. Yurov, B. Clarke
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It basically comes down to Lehner's ability to stay healthy vs Shesterkin's ability to fulfill his potential.
I would roll the dice with Shesterkin because he's younger and his perceived value could exceed Lehner's quickly.
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Agree to stick with Vas and Shest... My concern with Lehner is also with injury. As an owner, he did not help much over the past two seasons. With Fleury now out of the picture the real test for him is durability.
I have similar dilemma. Only you have a helluva security blanket in Vasi. When do you draft, and are goalies typically snagged before skaters? I ask because in my scenario, I pick 4th out of 10 and I think I have a slim chance to get Shesterkin back, but I know if I keep Shesterkin, Lehner will be first overal pick in my league. I am leaning toward taking that chance. But I am so worried about losing Shesterkin that I may chicken out and be stuck with any of the other Gs that each come with a 1B or other baggage. I say this because I’m just wondering if you could possibly wind up with Vas, Shesterkin and Lehner after draft? The goalie position is so disturbing anymore that my league is contemplating running with team goalies since there are only a few true workhorses in nets anymore.
10 Team H2H Points (Keep 1C, 2W, 2D, 1G, & 1 non-goalie):
G,A,+/-, PIM, PPG, SHG, GWG, OTG, FOWs, Hits, Blks, Maj, Mis, (bonus scoring for D-men makes them comparable to Wing)
Wins, Saves, GA, Shutouts
18 Man Roster (3 IR slots) Daily Start: 2C, 4W, 4D, 2G
C: Zibanejad, Thomas, Tavares
W: Stutzle, Robertson, Connor, Buchnevich, McCann
D: Makar, McAvoy, Josi, Theodore, Matheson, Harley
G: Georgiev, Binnington, Kochetkov, Andersen (IR)
I think in those settings you should always be trying to win now. Your focus should be the next 1-3 years IMO and have no plan for a rebuild, but rather what they call in the NHL a 'retool'.
That said, even though Lehner seems to be favoured to have a big year, I like Shesterkin and think Lehner is very far from a sure thing even though he is in a perfect situation. I see them as about even - Shesterkin has big upside and should grow over the next 2 or 3 years to his peak, though he may be slightly less productive compared to Lehner this year, if you gamble that Lehner actually stays healthy and doesn't wear down. If you go Lehner you are going for the trophy this year but should be perfectly able to find a solution if he crashes and burns. If you go Shesterkin, you should be okay with the results even if they are underwhelming this year as you know he will be good moving forward.
TLDR: Lehner is probably better this year but Shesterkin is probably not far off this year and in the next couple so there would be nothing wrong with going with Shesterkin especially since Lehner has some recurring risk factors.
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3 C, 3 LW, 3 RW, 6D, 2G, 5 bench
C - McDavid, Crosby, Tavares
LW - DeBrincat
RW - Meier, Miller
D -
G - Jarry
I'd lean towards Shesterkin, because that sets you up for a long while in net, if things go as expected.
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Dangle the both of them out as trade bait and see what you can get in return for either. I'm leaning Shesty myself here, but maybe someone throws you a crazy offer for him that helps your team now and in the future. I'm going to be in the same predicament at the end of this year in roto league, can only keep 2 goalies and I'll have Hellebyuck, Shesterkin and Sorokin (he's a free carry this year cause of GP). I'll throw out all 3 and see what value I can get back.
12 Team Dynasty League. $4 increase per player a year FP/ reduced salary for 3 years, Keep 8-12 (League Champion 14/15, 16/17, 19/20, 22/23)
Categories - D-G, G, A, PPP, SHP, SoG, Hits/Blocks, FoW, FoW%, Give/Take, Wins, GAA, Save%, Saves.
C: Tavares $33, Eichel $16 (1st yr FP), Trocheck $18, Jenner $9 Beniers $2 (1st yr RC)
W: Ovechkin $18, Hintz $17, Pavelski $11, Zacha $10, Kaprizov $7, Johnston $2 (1st yr RC), Reichel $2 (1st yr RC), Bertuzzi $1, Tippet $1
D: Burns $20, Jones $17, Werenski $16 (2nd yr FP), Matheson $5, Spurgeon $1, OEL $1
G: Shesterkin $7, Sorokin $3 (2nd yr RC), Raanta $1
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