Rank these Middling Forwards Please. I will rep.

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Trying to figure out my keeper for the league in sig. and if I have room for a trade. Please rank these guys for next year or two. I will only be able to keep 4. I have some thoughts but would like to hear from others.

A Beauvillier

D Gurianov

Z Hyman

J McCann

T Meier

S Monahan

K Keller

V Arvidsson

P Danault

R Donato

K Labanc

[hockeyrobot]

If you can only keep 4 from here I like the following....

Hyman
Gurianov
Beauvillier
Monahan

Pretty confident in those 4 for a points only.

[Belexus75]

a little too much of a list...but here are my top 35

Meier
Monahan
Hyman
Gurianov
Beauviller

[audiopile]

a little too much of a list...but here are my top 35

Meier
Monahan
Hyman
Gurianov
Beauviller

Yeah, its longer but i dont see much between them or I wouldnt be asking

Thanks for your thoughts!

[Belexus75]

Yeah, its longer but i dont see much between them or I wouldnt be asking

Thanks for your thoughts!

np and i didnt mean to be sarcastic, was supposed to say top 5 lol...sorry

[niconasr]

A Beauvillier - Love the player, but he's very streaky. Probably tops out at 40-45 for the next couple years.
D Gurianov - I have no clue about Gurianov, I believe him to be very talented. But man, offense goes to die in Dallas in recent years.
Z Hyman - With the contract and everything, you have to believe Hyman is set to be in the Oilers top 6 for at least the next 4 years. That's probably a 50 point floor for him with upside for more.
J McCann - He'll get tons of opportunity in Seattle but he's maybe the least talented player on this list, so he's a not for me.
T Meier - I love Meier and he's had an unlucky year but it's tough to trust the Sharks to have a big offense next year. That being said, he's going to get every opportunity to produce.
S Monahan - What a weak year he had! Is it a one-off or the start of a decline? He's only 26 so I'm inclined to give him a pass in a weird year. If he can stay in Calgary next to Gaudreau, he should be fine. If he's moved, he'll probably produce less.
C Keller - He's the youngest of the bunch and had the best year last year. But man, his team sucks! His floor should be fine, but the upside isn't there with the teammates around him.
V Arvidsson - Big fan of his game in multi-cats but in points-only, going to LA, I think I'll pass.
P Danault - As a Habs fan, I love what Danault did for us. And while he says he has another gear to his game offensively, I simply don't see it. His deployment shouldn't change much in LA and it's not like he'll get widely talented linemates either.
R Donato - He sticks out in this bunch as the most unreliable option. I'd steer clear.
K Labanc - I think he's a fine players but he's reliant on his teammates to score as he's more of a setup man. Decent floor, decent upside but nothing exciting about him.

For the next year or two, I'd rank them like this:

1- Keller
2- Meier
3- Monahan
4- Hyman

Then, a decent gap.

5- Gurianov
6- Labanc
7- Arvidsson
8- Beauvillier
9- McCann
10- Danault
11- Donato

Good luck to you!

[Axeman33]

Keller
Monahan
Meier
Danault

I know, people are going to wonder about Danault after the crappy year he had but if you look at his numbers the previous two seasons he had 47pts in 71 games the year before, and two seasons ago he had 53pts in 81 games. I listened to an interview he did after signing in LA and he said he was told that he would be given an offensive role there. That was a big reason he signed with LA. I see him in the 2C role for the foreseeable future until the kids pass him in a few years.

[niconasr]

Keller
Monahan
Meier
Danault

I know, people are going to wonder about Danault after the crappy year he had but if you look at his numbers the previous two seasons he had 47pts in 71 games the year before, and two seasons ago he had 53pts in 81 games. I listened to an interview he did after signing in LA and he said he was told that he would be given an offensive role there. That was a big reason he signed with LA. I see him in the 2C role for the foreseeable future until the kids pass him in a few years.

I definitely believe the Kings said that to him but even if true, I don't see how he ever sniffs close to 50 points again. As someone who's watched almost every Habs game since he's been with the team, there's a big difference between the Danault of 2-3 years ago and Danault now. His biggest season had him with Pacioretty or Gallagher, two of the leagues highest volume shooters. The Kings don't have that, or anything remotely close to that unless you want to say Dustin Brown (who's probably playing with Kopita anyway).

I think people underestimate how much of Danault's offense stemmed from those two guys launching the puck from everywhere. I love Danault and I wish the Habs kept him (though not at that contract), but I don't think he ever will develop much more offense to his game.

[Feenom]

In no particular order I would keep:

Keller
Hyman
Gurianov
Meier

Monahan is the odd man out unless switching Gurianov out for him. I would try and include one of them in a package deal if you can. Good luck

[bbfl1987]

Monahan
Hyman
Gurianov
Meier

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Keller
Monahan
Meier
Danault

I know, people are going to wonder about Danault after the crappy year he had but if you look at his numbers the previous two seasons he had 47pts in 71 games the year before, and two seasons ago he had 53pts in 81 games. I listened to an interview he did after signing in LA and he said he was told that he would be given an offensive role there. That was a big reason he signed with LA. I see him in the 2C role for the foreseeable future until the kids pass him in a few years.

Thanks Axe!

Finally some Keller recommendations. He isn't on my team, but I have a trade offer that would add him, and give me a bigger headache choosing keepers. I was just hoping that Keller would be a standout keeper or upgrade, not seeing that as the case so far.

Danault is a big risk, but so are McCann and Arvi - all on new teams that need help with points. Hmmm. And Ive had Meier for so long but patience is wearing thin even though he is almost at the 400 games BT mark.

Others:

Hyman - great with top end talent, but not worth much on his own - boom / bust in EDM like Kahun etc.
Gurianov - i like this guy, top 6 and getting better. Opportunity is there.
Monahan - i wish they blew up CGY and traded this guy. Expecting another ho hum season.
Beauvillier - streaky is right, this isnt a bad thing if I catch him on the waves. Defensive system though... and I already have Barzal
Labanc - yeah, meh.
Donato - just thrown in to make sure I wasn't missing anything


And believe me, im trying to do some 2:1 type deals but so is everyone else in my league.

[niconasr]

Thanks Axe!

Finally some Keller recommendations. He isn't on my team, but I have a trade offer that would add him, and give me a bigger headache choosing keepers. I was just hoping that Keller would be a standout keeper or upgrade, not seeing that as the case so far.

Danault is a big risk, but so are McCann and Arvi - all on new teams that need help with points. Hmmm. And Ive had Meier for so long but patience is wearing thin even though he is almost at the 400 games BT mark.

Others:

Hyman - great with top end talent, but not worth much on his own - boom / bust in EDM like Kahun etc.
Gurianov - i like this guy, top 6 and getting better. Opportunity is there.
Monahan - i wish they blew up CGY and traded this guy. Expecting another ho hum season.
Beauvillier - streaky is right, this isnt a bad thing if I catch him on the waves. Defensive system though... and I already have Barzal
Labanc - yeah, meh.
Donato - just thrown in to make sure I wasn't missing anything


And believe me, im trying to do some 2:1 type deals but so is everyone else in my league.

I don't understand why Keller doesn't get more love. I get that he's not a sexy name or doesn't play in a sexy market but the guy can put up numbers. He's going to play a lot of minutes and will get the best opportunities to produce. I'm not in love with his upside considering the surroundings he has but his floor is decently high and he's the youngest of the bunch.

[jshed2]

Keller
Monahan
Meier

Are the three which stand out to me as having the highest upsides and floors. For the last slot I think it comes down to Hyman and McCann. McCann has the higher ceiling, but its highly dependent on where SEA decides to play him next year. So depends on your risk tolerance.

[pmorrow]

Hyman
Meier
Monahan
Keller

[audiopile]

Gotta reload the reps a bit before sending out the rest. Thanks for all the replies!

Short list appears to be:

Monahan
Keller
Hyman
Meier

Gurianov
Beauvillier
the rest all kinda the same here

So if I did make a trade to acquire Keller, it looks like he could be an upgrade on some of my other bubble keepers.

The deal on the table is Panarin for Backstrom, Keller and a first round pick (6 OA perhaps nets me S Bennett). Im trying to get a bit more because that isnt enough for Panarin. Again, much appreciated dobberites!