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    Hey All,

    So after his peak Playoff MVP Performance; it has me thinking about Vasilevskiy and maybe a potential, Sell as High as he has ever been.

    Maybe in my limited Keeper, I can look at swapping Vasilevskiy for a Matthews, or a Rantanen, or some other top 10 talent (Being that he is one himself).

    In order to do this though, I would have to be under the impression that he will have a cliff upcoming and will regress back into the pack of other elite goalies.

    So with that said; and looking at Tampa's salary cap issues; they definitely will not be the same team next season, or rather, have anywhere close to the depth they had this year. Having won back to back cups also maybe takes some air out of the tires... so... does anyone see Vasilevskiy having another Vezina caliber season next season, or is there a cliff approaching, and this is the ultimate time to sell high?

    Thoughts? Am I the crazy one thinking there is an approaching cliff for him?
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    Default Re: Does Vasilevskiy have a cliff upcoming?

    I'll say that he will hit a cliff, in that his numbers will decline slightly over the next couple of years, but I still think he's pretty much a lock to be a top 5, if not top 3 goalie in the league for years to come. He's still so young and even if he does hit a bit of a cliff over the next couple of years, could see him jumping back up to the very top just as easily.

    Not often do many goalies come with his level of skill, athleticism and drive. I can't comment as I never saw the man play, but there have been comparisons of him to Tretiak in just how dominant he can be.
    In your case, unless you're getting a McDavid back, or a top end player and a really good goalie back, I don't see it making sense for you as your other goalie is Anderson, with a 10 team league and playing 2 goalies, especially H2H, losing Vasi (unless the return is godlike) I see hurting your team more then helping.
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    Default Re: Does Vasilevskiy have a cliff upcoming?

    Yes if you can convert him into a stud like the ones you mentioned that seems like a good sell high. Vasilevskiy should be a great own for a long time but he may never have this much value again. Certainly not the worst idea to cash in on a goalie rather than wait until they hit a ditch and ship them away for much less, if not just discard them.

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    Default Re: Does Vasilevskiy have a cliff upcoming?

    Make sure to get one of the young stud G in return, plus a great forward like you listed. If you aren't getting a replacement G with similar potential ​to what Vasi is then I wouldnt do it.

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    Default Re: Does Vasilevskiy have a cliff upcoming?

    He's still young, I don't a cliff in the near future.
    Sure TBL will lose a couple players, but will also gain Kucherov. (All this bearing any long term injuries). They won't be the playoff dominate TBL, but more in line as to what they did during the regular season.

    I'd evaluate on that. If someone thinks he's worth more than that, then you have an opportunity to sell high.
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    Default Re: Does Vasilevskiy have a cliff upcoming?

    He's a goalie so probably

    Don't settle for the best thing offered to you though. Go out of your way and make sure you're actually selling high. I've seen too many instances where someone has their mind set on selling high and they end up selling low just to get a deal done.


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    Default Re: Does Vasilevskiy have a cliff upcoming?

    Quote Originally Posted by ericdaoust View Post
    He's a goalie so probably

    Don't settle for the best thing offered to you though. Go out of your way and make sure you're actually selling high. I've seen too many instances where someone has their mind set on selling high and they end up selling low just to get a deal done.
    This is very good advice. I will just add that while Vasi is a goalie, he has been the only one on the face of the planet that has been consistently excellent for the last 4 years and there are no indications whatsoever, other than he is a goalie, that he's approaching a cliff. If you move him, you make a killing, cause you don't need to move him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubba55 View Post
    This is very good advice. I will just add that while Vasi is a goalie, he has been the only one on the face of the planet that has been consistently excellent for the last 4 years and there are no indications whatsoever, other than he is a goalie, that he's approaching a cliff.
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    Default Re: Does Vasilevskiy have a cliff upcoming?

    I donít see a cliff anytime soon. You are dealing one of if not the best at his position, so if you do it, you do it to improve your team with studs up front and/or on the blue line. If you donít get that type of value I would hold onto him. Heís still going to be solid with Cooper at coach, Hedman and Sergachev defending. Plenty of high end talent to keep the Bolts contending which all helps Vas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feenom View Post
    I don’t see a cliff anytime soon. You are dealing one of if not the best at his position, so if you do it, you do it to improve your team with studs up front and/or on the blue line. If you don’t get that type of value I would hold onto him. He’s still going to be solid with Cooper at coach, Hedman and Sergachev defending. Plenty of high end talent to keep the Bolts contending which all helps Vas.
    I agree with this. I don't see him slipping anytime soon and he's going to be very hard to replace.

    It's always easier to find the stud forward. It's a lot harder to find and acquire stud goalies.
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    Default Re: Does Vasilevskiy have a cliff upcoming?

    I looked at the top 300 keeper list from top to bottom to see at what point I definitely wouldnt trade Vasi for that player straight up assuming goalie categories are relatively important in my league

    Vasi is 26 and has had 4 dominant seasons in a row. hedman, mcdonagh, sergachev will all be on the team for the forseeable future not to mention great 2-way centres in point cirelli

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    2. drai yes
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    5. matthews yes
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    7. panarin hmmm i dont think so....
    8. marner ehhhh hmmmmm no?
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    10. pkane nope
    11. rantanen probably nope
    12. huberdeau nope
    13. scheifele nope
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    15. eichel hell the eff no

    if i can get a top 5 asset for vasi i would do it. otherwise keep him, in 4 years hes only 30 lol
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    OMG! A cliff, is it a big one and will there be treacherous waters and gnarly man eating sharks down below? btw A big misconception btw (Damn you Jaws!!!), but go with me on this one.

    Also a side fact and some trivia, Jaws was actually based on a novel that was based on a true story about some bull sharks up in New Jersey shore area that attacked and killed 4 people, including a 10-year-old boy. Also, a thing to note, bull sharks can survive in fresh water for long periods of time. Fun times eh.

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    But seriously, unless you're a non contender and rebuilding, and even then I question why you would move on from this goaltender right now. Isn't he only like 27?
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    Thanks All for the Feedback!

    I really only saw myself trading Vasilevskiy if it was for a top 5 player, or maybe packaging him with Ehlers to grab 2 players more ranking in the low 10's / high teens. But really, I'm not going to shop him around, but rather would be open to the right offer.

    It mostly just comes down to, this is the ultimate sell high moment. I do not think his stock will get any higher than it is right at this moment.
    But there should also be something said about riding a player of this caliber while the going is as good as it is.

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    Not only are they back to back champs - but they did it in the shortest period between Cups.

    A playoff Season - a 60 game season and another playoff season jam packed into one calendar year - August 2020 - July 2021.
    And with the 2021-22 season expected to start almost close to normal..

    I expect all Lightning players drop off a cliff next season. That is simply a lot of hockey in a short period of time.

    So yes - I would move Vas for one of those stud forwards right now if you could.
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