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    Gustafsson, Konovalov, Anunnen, Dostal, Ingram, Tarasov, Luukkonen

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    Dostal
    Tarasov
    Konovalov

    Annunen

    Ingram
    Luukkonen
    Gustavsson

    Dostal is the best goalie, but he does have Gibson in the way, so if you want to take that into account, then you may knock him down a little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by senryu View Post
    Dostal
    Tarasov
    Konovalov

    Annunen

    Ingram
    Luukkonen
    Gustavsson

    Dostal is the best goalie, but he does have Gibson in the way, so if you want to take that into account, then you may knock him down a little.
    I have them ranked very similar. That said, I'm looking at this from a tier system, meaning Dostal, Tarasov and Konovalov are all tier one. Annunen sits alone in tier two and tier three includes Ingram, Luukkonen and Gus.

    Certainly Askarov needs to be considered here and I would include him in tier 1. However, Saros is beginning to emerge and that will not help Askarov.

    With goalies you just never know but if I were to further rank the tier 1 guys it would be as follows:

    Tarasov - A lot of folks consider him to be the best goalie in the Blue Jackets system. There is every chance that the goalie "log jam" in Columbus gets addressed this summer and that being the case Tarsov will have the opportunity I think to prove that he is indeed a quality NHL starting Goalie.

    Dostal - As Senryu has already pointed out, it is unlikely that Dostal has a legitimate opportunity to take over the Ducks crease as long as Gibson anchors it down and he is under contract for the next 6 years. Dostal may not have to wait 6 years to get his shot, but it will likely be 2 or 3 before he may begin to transition into the starting job in Anaheim. Or he's traded.

    Konovalov - This guy is a potential wild card. What he has done in the KHL is quite impressive. Further, the Russians are turning out high level goaltenders at an amazing rate and many feel that Konovalov is definitely one of them. There is little doubt that the Oilers need to do something about their goaltending. Is it possible that Konovalov is given the opportunity next year to take the crease in Edmonton. I think there is a fair chance of him getting that opportunity and we'll see what happens. Wild Card!
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    First off, goalie prospects are a complete crapshoot. I'm sure I don't have to tell you this but felt it's worth mentioning.

    A similar thread recently here:

    https://forums.dobbersports.com/show...hlight=Tarasov

    I'd go:

    Tarasov
    Dostal
    Konovalov
    Annunen
    Gustavsson
    UPL
    Ingram

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    Hmm... isn't this the fun of goalies? My list is seemingly way different

    Dostal
    Tarasov
    Gustavsson

    Luukonen
    Konovalov
    Annunen

    Ingram < and I think he's the real wildcard here. His numbers are terrific in the AHL. He needs A. a real shot and B. to get his life in order. He does B, he'll find a way to get A. and then he could skyrocket up this list. (The type of player Toronto should target as a depth G addition to the system)
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    I'm closer with Luca's take.

    Dostal & Tarasov are the top 2 for me.
    Gus, Konovalov are in my next tier.
    UPL, Ingram and Annunen (in that order) round out a tier just a smidge below Tier 2. (And further agree with Luca that if Ingram can get settled, he'd have as good of a shot as any of these guys to be relevant)

    FWIW, I find it almost useless to try and project "opportunity" with goalies (feel the opposite with F & D). I almost always just focus on pedigree & scouting (reports and the odd eyeball test) knowing it's a multi-year wait anyways.

    I mean, just consider Gus' "path":

    2nd rd pick by PIT.
    'Blocked' by MAF and a couple of young risers in M.Murray and T.Jarry
    Dealt to OTT.
    Clear goalie of the future with only an aging C.Anderson really blocking his ascension.
    Gus craps the bed in the minors (based on expectations) over a pair of seasons.
    OTT trades for Murray and gives playing time to Hogberg, signs Daccord, drafts Sogaard, Mandolese, Merilainen.
    Gus gets dropped/forgotten about in every single dynasty league I play in.
    19 Ottawa goalies get hurt in the span of a month allowing Gus to get some time in the show.
    Gus decides to go 'lights out' in his run of NHL starts he finally gets.
    OTT (fans anyways) no longer believe in Murray.
    Gus back in the discussion. (For OTT as well as for rank 'em threads on Dobber!)

    Seriously how could any of us actually predict that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by YzermansLegacy View Post
    I'm closer with Luca's take.

    Dostal & Tarasov are the top 2 for me.
    Gus, Konovalov are in my next tier.
    UPL, Ingram and Annunen (in that order) round out a tier just a smidge below Tier 2. (And further agree with Luca that if Ingram can get settled, he'd have as good of a shot as any of these guys to be relevant)

    FWIW, I find it almost useless to try and project "opportunity" with goalies (feel the opposite with F & D). I almost always just focus on pedigree & scouting (reports and the odd eyeball test) knowing it's a multi-year wait anyways.

    I mean, just consider Gus' "path":

    2nd rd pick by PIT.
    'Blocked' by MAF and a couple of young risers in M.Murray and T.Jarry
    Dealt to OTT.
    Clear goalie of the future with only an aging C.Anderson really blocking his ascension.
    Gus craps the bed in the minors (based on expectations) over a pair of seasons.
    OTT trades for Murray and gives playing time to Hogberg, signs Daccord, drafts Sogaard, Mandolese, Merilainen.
    Gus gets dropped/forgotten about in every single dynasty league I play in.
    19 Ottawa goalies get hurt in the span of a month allowing Gus to get some time in the show.
    Gus decides to go 'lights out' in his run of NHL starts he finally gets.
    OTT (fans anyways) no longer believe in Murray.
    Gus back in the discussion. (For OTT as well as for rank 'em threads on Dobber!)

    Seriously how could any of us actually predict that?
    Absolutely!!!! I loved your Tracking of Gus!!! Thing is, this is by no means unique, in fact it's arguably pretty much the norm applicable to one degree or the other of the majority of the flakes between the pipes! However, we must subject ourselves to this "torture" as most leagues have numerous goalie stats, we have no choice but to take the best shot as you see it, pick your poison and hope for the best. But it gets better, even if you "get it right" the chances are that's only temporary and that stroke of genius turns back into a pile of poop and the cycle continues. But, that's what we do (:
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    Agreed that none of us ever know and anything with goalies is possible. But I'd like to have seen some level of success by Gustavsson. If I recall, his main performance-based claims to fame are a WJC tournament and the handful of games he appeared in this season. Not a lot! But ever hopeful.

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    my problem with Gustavsson is that he was supposed to be this new great thing, came over from Europe and really struggled for couple of year...he was great last year...but does that mean he needed long time to adjust or just had good few months and will go back to not so good...time will tell i guess.
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