Reply With QuoteSeider. I don't think Robertson is worth the Toronto hype. He's also not going to get any premium ice time for a few more years.
N. Robertson for M. Seider
Been offered M. Seider for my N. Robertson. Which player would you rather have in your prospect stable next year and the one after ?
12 Team H2H Keeper (4 C/LW/RW, 6 D, 2G, 3 SPARES, 2 IR - 5 keepers )
Skater Categories - G, A, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG, Hits, Blocks
Goalie Categories - W, SV %, SO
TBD
Farm team: K. Johnson, Sanderson, Nikishin, Kotchetkov
Re: N. Robertson for M. Seider
Seider. I don't think Robertson is worth the Toronto hype. He's also not going to get any premium ice time for a few more years.
Re: N. Robertson for M. Seider
Pretty much my train of thought as well.Originally Posted by chuckcouples
10 Team, Points Only, Cash League
25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt
Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink
G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger
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Re: N. Robertson for M. Seider
In a league that counts hits and blocks like yours I'll take Seider all day. He's just been honored as the SHL's top D - but he's also been among the league leaders in hits when it was all said and done. As a 20yr old....
24 team H2H dynasty, fantasy points, no cap
Skaters: G 4.5 (5 for Ds), A 3, PPG 1.5 (2 for Ds), PPA 1 (1.5 for Ds), SHP 2, Ft 2, HIT 0.6, BLK 0.6, SOG 0.3 (0.4 for Ds), FW 0.1, Tk 0.5 // Gv -0.3
Goalies: W 3.5, SHO 5, SV 0.5, A 3 // GA -3, L -1.5
4C, 4LW, 4RW, 6D, 2G, 4BN, 4IR
C: McDavid, MacKinnon, Hischier
LW: B.Tkachuk, Ovechkin, Paul(C), Jankowski(C)
LW/RW: Meier, Fiala, Giroux(C), Niederreiter
RW: Reinhart, Anderson, Armia
D: Josi, Matheson, Durzi, Moser, Cernak, Zadorov, Siegenthaler
G: Daccord, Merzlikins, Vanecek, Pickard
44 minors; most noteables: A.Schmid, E.Andrae, M.Kesselring, S.Malinski, B.Pachal, L.Stanley, L.Bichsel, E.Soderblom,...
Re: N. Robertson for M. Seider
Seider for me as well. Seider may not be an elite offensive defencemen but there is every chance he turns into a workhorse that significantly contributes at both ends of the ice and accordingly, a very valuable asset to own in roto leagues. I'm not sure how much impact he will have immediately, but I can see him rounding into form later next season and then building on that moving forward, certainly establishing himself top 4. Robertson is not likely to have much impact with the Buds for a few years and I just don't see him having the type of value in your league as Seider might. Seider will bring more to your team and sooner than Roberston will IMO.
14 Team Roto; Keep 25; 12 F, 6 D, 2 G; 10 Farm; 5 Bench; 5 IR;
Salary Cap - 102.5 Mil
Scoring Cats: G, A, Pts, PIM, Hits, BS, SOG, F Points, D Points; Win+Ties+SO, GAA, SV%
Keepers
F: Aho, Larkin, DeBrincat, Vrana, Bennett, Scheifele, Kakko,Tolvanen, McBain,
D: Heiskanen, Fox, Toews, Lundqvist
G: Swayman, Andersen, Copley
Drops
F: Gaudreau, Terravainen, Puljujarvi, Kravstov, Zary
D: Brannstrom, Cernak, Alexeyev
G: Korpisalo, Merzlikins
FARM: Rossi, Berggren, Holtz, Savoie, Clarke, Tarasov, Wolf
Re: N. Robertson for M. Seider
I like Seider... but I can't honestly tell, to this point, what his HIT/BLK total will come in as.
Nick Lidstrom was a hell of an NHL defensemen, but he didn't really HIT or PIM... so his value (unfortunately) lowered in leagues with that cat.
In a 12F/6D league, finding solid D is important.
Especially those that HIT/BLK.
It's a little bit of a wait-and-see on how Seider does there... and if/when/whether he gets PP1 TOI over a guy like Hronek (or even Cholowski).
TBD.
But yeah, I think the high-end risk that Seider ends up being a do-it-all D-beast is worth.the.risk.
It's going to be really hard for Robertson to nose into the TOR PP1, given what Matthews/Marner/Tavares/Nylander can do.
I like Seider here on everything I've read about his development and potential... and given the league 12F/6D format.
Re: N. Robertson for M. Seider
I’d go with Seider. If Detroit decides to use both Hronek and Seider on the PP1 in the future, you’ll be set. Good luck
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Re: N. Robertson for M. Seider
I'd go Seider in this case, due to the fact that even if N. Robertson breaks out like his older brother, the deployment for PP1 and all of that will be much harder to break through compared to Seider's situation.
12 team deep keeper league, 17 main roster players, 5 prospect players, max 2 goalie keepers for the main roster. point breakdown goes as follows:
Skaters:
G is 4 points, 5.2 points for D goals. A is 2.5 points, 3.25 points for defense. 0.07 per FOW, 0.2 points for blocks, hits, and SOG 0.5 points for PIMS and +/-, 3 for SHG, 1.5 for SHA.
Goalies:
GS is 1.5 points, -1 for GA, 0.2 for SV, 4 for SHO, and 3 for W.
Team:
https://www.fantrax.com/fantasy/leag...gi/team/roster
Re: N. Robertson for M. Seider
Went ahead with the trade everyone. Thanks a bunch of the advice !
Re: N. Robertson for M. Seider
my opinion as well
31 TEAMS keep all multi-cat (lot of them) dynasty
Offensive stats : Goals, Assist , PPP, PPTOI, SOG...
Defensive stats : PKTOI, BLKS, TakeAway, Giveaway...
(basically best NHL player)
Re: N. Robertson for M. Seider
Id go Robertson. I think Seider will be much better irl than in fantasy and Robertson is suffering a bit from the what have you done for me lately thinking that poolies are famous for. Kid will be a fantasy stud- dont overthink it- keep Niko!!!
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