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    Hey guys,

    In my signature salary cap league, what are your thoughts on my intended keepers in bold in my signature?

    The three that are giving me the more headaches are Zacha, Beauvilier and Toews ...

    However, the only keeper I would see myself letting go for one of them is Meier and after reading this morning Ramblings, I think I should hand onto him.

    Thanks !
    16-Teams H2H Weekly
    Salary Cap
    (10 Keepers Bold)

    Skaters: G (6pts - Forwards/8pts - Defensemen), A (5pts - Forwards/6pts - Defensemen), +/- (1pt), GWG (2pts), ShootoutG (1pt), ShootoutGWG (1pt)
    Goalies: W (12pts), GA (-1pt), SA (0.25pt), SHO (8pts)
    Salary Cap: 81,5M

    C (3): Novak 0,75M, Hischier 7,25M, MacKinnon 12,6M,
    LW (3): B. Marchand 6,125M, Ovechkin 9,5M, A. Nylander 0,775M
    RW (3): Tolvanen 1,45M, K. Fiala 7,79M, Guenther 0,89M
    D (4): Boqvist 2,6M, R. Josi 9,06M, D. Toews 4,1M, Morrissey 6,25M
    G (1):I. Shesterkin 5,67M
    Bench: Zary 0,86M, Farabee 5M, Mateychuk 0,92M, Brink 0,93M, E.Lindholm 4,85M, Holtz 0,89M, DeAngelo 1,675M
    IR: Landeskog 7M, Hertl 8,14M

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    Personally, I would not keep Giroux in a salary cap keeper like this. Just doing a rough breakdown and cost per point for your skaters;

    Giroux's salary equates to a $192,441 per point
    Eriksson Ek = $49,583 per point
    Lindholm = $103,191
    Marchand = $88,768
    Garland = $19,871
    Vrana = $93,055
    Meier = $193,584
    Fiala = $75,000
    Bjorkstrand = $56,818
    Gustafsson = $249,999
    Josi = $274,515
    Toews = $132,258
    Doughty = $323,529
    Beauvillier = $75,000
    Zacha = $64,285
    Ritchie = $57,650
    Dvorak = $143,548
    Labanc = $168,750

    Now, the Defensive salaries per point of course are higher, but Toews definitely shows his value. Josi did miss some time this season, so that doesn't help his numbers, but if you could find a way to keep both, I'd look into that for sure.
    As for forwards, Giroux and Meier aren't pulling their weight with respects to some of the players you have on entry level contracts who are performing.
    Lindholm, Marchand, Fiala, Garland, Vrana, Bjorkstrand are solid locks like you have bolded, and have good value per point, so no issues there.
    Shestyorkin vs Petersen is what it is. Both are on entry level contracts, and Shestyorkin is on the better team going forward, so that's easy.

    So for me, I would not keep Giroux or Meier in this instance. I would swap Meier for Toews, as his value for a defensemen is there. Then, in dropping Giroux, I would keep Eriksson Ek. He provides the best value in comparison to Beauvillier / Zacha, and really, I believe all 3 have upside, but right now the numbers don't lie.

    Hope that insight helps. I know it is a one season snap-shot, but hopefully it helps your decision.
    Cheers

    Edit** linking Cap Friendly Cost per Point website:
    https://www.capfriendly.com/cost-per-point
    This is a great tool in Salary cap leagues
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    Goalies CAT: W, L, GAA, SV, SV%, SHO
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    C: Crosby, Stuetzle, RNH, Couturier
    LW: Ovechkin, Guentzel, Toffoli, Knies
    RW: Fiala, Perron, DeBrusk, Zuccarello
    D: Seider, Hronek, Pietrangelo, Heiskanen, McAvoy, Chychrun
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    Do you have to set your keepers before you know the new contracts? Garland in particular is going to get a raise (and I hope it's not to the same level that Keller or Schmaltz got extended for). JEE, Beauvillier, Vrana, and Fiala also need new deals.

    Also, you still have Bjorkstrand listed at $2.5M and Josi at $4M. Is your league one year behind on salaries?

    Initial keeper thoughts are:
    Lindholm, Marchand, Vrana, Fiala, Bjorkstrand, JEE, Garland, Meier, Beauvillier
    Josi
    Shesty, Petersen

    Those are your best 12 options. Some of the forwards will depend on their next contracts, so you then have to cut two more of Josi, Petersen, Meier, and the RFAs (if anyone gets overpaid).
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    I'd stick with the keepers you have in bold.

    Also, love your avatar.
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    Forward: B. Point, M. Necas, A. Debrincat, T. Zegras, J. Bratt, L. Raymond
    Defense: J. Morrissey, A. DeAngelo, S. Gostisbehere, D. Doughty
    Goalie: T. Demko, E. Merzlikins
    Bench: M. Rossi, C. Glass, M. Maccelli, M. Dumba, K. Shattenkirk, F. Andersen
    Prospects of Note: L. Stankoven, J. Lekkerimaki, D. Yurov, B. Clarke

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    Thank you for the input ! This will definitely help me !! I also did not know CapFriendly had that amazing feature !
    16-Teams H2H Weekly
    Salary Cap
    (10 Keepers Bold)

    Skaters: G (6pts - Forwards/8pts - Defensemen), A (5pts - Forwards/6pts - Defensemen), +/- (1pt), GWG (2pts), ShootoutG (1pt), ShootoutGWG (1pt)
    Goalies: W (12pts), GA (-1pt), SA (0.25pt), SHO (8pts)
    Salary Cap: 81,5M

    C (3): Novak 0,75M, Hischier 7,25M, MacKinnon 12,6M,
    LW (3): B. Marchand 6,125M, Ovechkin 9,5M, A. Nylander 0,775M
    RW (3): Tolvanen 1,45M, K. Fiala 7,79M, Guenther 0,89M
    D (4): Boqvist 2,6M, R. Josi 9,06M, D. Toews 4,1M, Morrissey 6,25M
    G (1):I. Shesterkin 5,67M
    Bench: Zary 0,86M, Farabee 5M, Mateychuk 0,92M, Brink 0,93M, E.Lindholm 4,85M, Holtz 0,89M, DeAngelo 1,675M
    IR: Landeskog 7M, Hertl 8,14M

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eskimo Brother View Post
    Do you have to set your keepers before you know the new contracts? Garland in particular is going to get a raise (and I hope it's not to the same level that Keller or Schmaltz got extended for). JEE, Beauvillier, Vrana, and Fiala also need new deals.

    Also, you still have Bjorkstrand listed at $2.5M and Josi at $4M. Is your league one year behind on salaries?

    Initial keeper thoughts are:
    Lindholm, Marchand, Vrana, Fiala, Bjorkstrand, JEE, Garland, Meier, Beauvillier
    Josi
    Shesty, Petersen

    Those are your best 12 options. Some of the forwards will depend on their next contracts, so you then have to cut two more of Josi, Petersen, Meier, and the RFAs (if anyone gets overpaid).
    Thanks, Eskimo ! You are right, my salaries were not updated yet as I forgot to do it. We are not one year behind in salaries.

    I will be able to wait for the new contracts to come before locking my keepers so this will certainly help. As for the keepers, I can only keep 10 so I will keep your list of 12 in mind but will need to let 2 of them go !
    16-Teams H2H Weekly
    Salary Cap
    (10 Keepers Bold)

    Skaters: G (6pts - Forwards/8pts - Defensemen), A (5pts - Forwards/6pts - Defensemen), +/- (1pt), GWG (2pts), ShootoutG (1pt), ShootoutGWG (1pt)
    Goalies: W (12pts), GA (-1pt), SA (0.25pt), SHO (8pts)
    Salary Cap: 81,5M

    C (3): Novak 0,75M, Hischier 7,25M, MacKinnon 12,6M,
    LW (3): B. Marchand 6,125M, Ovechkin 9,5M, A. Nylander 0,775M
    RW (3): Tolvanen 1,45M, K. Fiala 7,79M, Guenther 0,89M
    D (4): Boqvist 2,6M, R. Josi 9,06M, D. Toews 4,1M, Morrissey 6,25M
    G (1):I. Shesterkin 5,67M
    Bench: Zary 0,86M, Farabee 5M, Mateychuk 0,92M, Brink 0,93M, E.Lindholm 4,85M, Holtz 0,89M, DeAngelo 1,675M
    IR: Landeskog 7M, Hertl 8,14M

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    Hey all !!

    Now that we have all updated salaries (JEE, Fiala, Vrana, Beauvillier, Shestyorkin), would your picks as my keepers be the same?

    Thanks !
    16-Teams H2H Weekly
    Salary Cap
    (10 Keepers Bold)

    Skaters: G (6pts - Forwards/8pts - Defensemen), A (5pts - Forwards/6pts - Defensemen), +/- (1pt), GWG (2pts), ShootoutG (1pt), ShootoutGWG (1pt)
    Goalies: W (12pts), GA (-1pt), SA (0.25pt), SHO (8pts)
    Salary Cap: 81,5M

    C (3): Novak 0,75M, Hischier 7,25M, MacKinnon 12,6M,
    LW (3): B. Marchand 6,125M, Ovechkin 9,5M, A. Nylander 0,775M
    RW (3): Tolvanen 1,45M, K. Fiala 7,79M, Guenther 0,89M
    D (4): Boqvist 2,6M, R. Josi 9,06M, D. Toews 4,1M, Morrissey 6,25M
    G (1):I. Shesterkin 5,67M
    Bench: Zary 0,86M, Farabee 5M, Mateychuk 0,92M, Brink 0,93M, E.Lindholm 4,85M, Holtz 0,89M, DeAngelo 1,675M
    IR: Landeskog 7M, Hertl 8,14M

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    not for me, i wouldn't be keeping Giroux here, I rather have Toews or Zacha. Toews will likely have 40+ points for 4.1 mil and Zacha will have 50ish for 2.25 mil... Giroux, even if you get 70 out of him is 6 more million over Zacha... I rather spend 8 mil on someone who is a safer bet for 80+ points. And redrafting Toews on that contract will be hard... Cheap producing D are hard to come by and his contract is awesome for 3 more seasons.

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    Thanks for the feedback, mdratch !

    Anyone else?
    16-Teams H2H Weekly
    Salary Cap
    (10 Keepers Bold)

    Skaters: G (6pts - Forwards/8pts - Defensemen), A (5pts - Forwards/6pts - Defensemen), +/- (1pt), GWG (2pts), ShootoutG (1pt), ShootoutGWG (1pt)
    Goalies: W (12pts), GA (-1pt), SA (0.25pt), SHO (8pts)
    Salary Cap: 81,5M

    C (3): Novak 0,75M, Hischier 7,25M, MacKinnon 12,6M,
    LW (3): B. Marchand 6,125M, Ovechkin 9,5M, A. Nylander 0,775M
    RW (3): Tolvanen 1,45M, K. Fiala 7,79M, Guenther 0,89M
    D (4): Boqvist 2,6M, R. Josi 9,06M, D. Toews 4,1M, Morrissey 6,25M
    G (1):I. Shesterkin 5,67M
    Bench: Zary 0,86M, Farabee 5M, Mateychuk 0,92M, Brink 0,93M, E.Lindholm 4,85M, Holtz 0,89M, DeAngelo 1,675M
    IR: Landeskog 7M, Hertl 8,14M

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