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    Default Re: Is it Possible to overpay for McDavid

    Different kind of answer... Now is not the time to buy McDavid.
    Look for improvements elsewhere and come back to this next offseason when he's come back to normal McDavid levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Invictus View Post
    Different kind of answer... Now is not the time to buy McDavid.
    Look for improvements elsewhere and come back to this next offseason when he's come back to normal McDavid levels.
    This may be the case. OGM is a friend so likely will have a discussion but it is feeling too steep a price likely to warrant a trade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucafen4 View Post
    I would probably go after AM instead and leverage Pasta to try and get it done close to 1-1 value. A year ago OGM probably does trade AM 1-1.
    I have pondered this a good deal to be honest. Have leaned away from this trade as they are only roughly a year in age apart, both seem to have injury issues to some extent so feels a wash there. This season is the first season of the last three that Matthews has been more valuable than Pasta in our league, and he plays a deeper position. But Matthews owner is a hugeeee bruins fan so if I could actually get a little extra for Matthews I might do it, but otherwise I think I will stay the course...but the value is definitely close.

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    C:Aho, Barkov, Pavelski(RW), Nugent-Hop(LW)
    R:Rantanen, Pasta, Konecny
    L:Guentzel, Gaudreau, Keller(RW), Benn
    D:Makar, Karlsson, Sergachev, Dobson, Hronek, Sanderson
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    No, but in my league it's possible to criminally underpay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli26 View Post
    No, but in my league it's possible to criminally underpay.
    Haha care to elaborate ?
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    G(3),A(2),+/-(1),PM(0.5),PPP(1),GW(1),S(0.4),W(4),SV(0.2),GA(-1),SO(2)
    C:Aho, Barkov, Pavelski(RW), Nugent-Hop(LW)
    R:Rantanen, Pasta, Konecny
    L:Guentzel, Gaudreau, Keller(RW), Benn
    D:Makar, Karlsson, Sergachev, Dobson, Hronek, Sanderson
    G:Vasilevskiy, Hart, Kuemper, Kotchetkov, Husso





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    I'd be all over trying to trade Pasta for Matthews.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jman View Post
    I'd be all over trying to trade Pasta for Matthews.
    Right, Give me Pastaaaaaaaa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidenown View Post
    Haha care to elaborate ?
    Don't mind if I do.

    I was told by my league, I couldn't make my original deal for Leon Draisaitl, because the return wasn't enough. Martin Necas, Timo Meier, Roman Josi, and Ethan Bear for Leon Drasaitl and Jacob Slavin. btw The GM originally offered me Draisaitl for Necas and Meier. I didn't think the league would accept so I countered him with a better offer for his end (who does that nowadays?! No one!), and said I'll add Josi and Bear if you add Slavin.

    That deal was turned down, the co-Commish then threatened me in a private message weeks later, and a day later this deal was made, his Anze Kopitar, Morgan Rielly, Kirill Kaprizov, and Reilly Smith for the other guy's Connor McDavid, Josh Norris, and Jacob Muzzin.

    Hmmm....
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    Sounds like a good league to quit!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Eli26 View Post
    Don't mind if I do.

    I was told by my league, I couldn't make my original deal for Leon Draisaitl, because the return wasn't enough. Martin Necas, Timo Meier, Roman Josi, and Ethan Bear for Leon Drasaitl and Jacob Slavin. btw The GM originally offered me Draisaitl for Necas and Meier. I didn't think the league would accept so I countered him with a better offer for his end (who does that nowadays?! No one!), and said I'll add Josi and Bear if you add Slavin.

    That deal was turned down, the co-Commish then threatened me in a private message weeks later, and a day later this deal was made, his Anze Kopitar, Morgan Rielly, Kirill Kaprizov, and Reilly Smith for the other guy's Connor McDavid, Josh Norris, and Jacob Muzzin.

    Hmmm....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockies & Hockeys View Post
    Sounds like a good league to quit!!!
    Definitely! Guess your commish thinks Kaprizov is going to be Jagr or something. Or was he attached to the deal? haha
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    C:Aho, Barkov, Pavelski(RW), Nugent-Hop(LW)
    R:Rantanen, Pasta, Konecny
    L:Guentzel, Gaudreau, Keller(RW), Benn
    D:Makar, Karlsson, Sergachev, Dobson, Hronek, Sanderson
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    Can I ask and please be completely honest, is the Leon Draisaitl more fair or the Connor McDavid deal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli26 View Post
    Can I ask and please be completely honest, is the Leon Draisaitl more fair or the Connor McDavid deal?
    Would need to know the league settings and scoring to know the value of some of those guys, especially the D-men. But, both a big underpays in my book.
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    C:Aho, Barkov, Pavelski(RW), Nugent-Hop(LW)
    R:Rantanen, Pasta, Konecny
    L:Guentzel, Gaudreau, Keller(RW), Benn
    D:Makar, Karlsson, Sergachev, Dobson, Hronek, Sanderson
    G:Vasilevskiy, Hart, Kuemper, Kotchetkov, Husso





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    Default Re: Is it Possible to overpay for McDavid

    Fair enough, but which one is a bigger underpay in your eyes.

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    btw Dmen get 15 pts for a goal vs. dmen. The difference between Muzzin and Rielly doesn't offset it enough... in fact this season it's a dead heat.
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    best bet is to overpay for him when he is injured and the owner is in need of immediate help to win title.

    JUST THEN, if i was the McDavid owner, i would consider.

    Think Kucherov this year. Some sacrificed their whole year and sold away all their assets for Kucherov, just so they can own him for upcoming years. That's when i would strike for McDavid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowball View Post
    best bet is to overpay for him when he is injured and the owner is in need of immediate help to win title.

    JUST THEN, if i was the McDavid owner, i would consider.

    Think Kucherov this year. Some sacrificed their whole year and sold away all their assets for Kucherov, just so they can own him for upcoming years. That's when i would strike for McDavid.
    Except Kucherov isn't McDavid or close. He had one 128 point season which he won't even come close to replicating again. He's a safer bet for 100 points. Malkin at 34 last year had a higher point-per-game rate.
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