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    Hey everyone, hope you all are doing well. All the information for my league and team should be in my signature. Someone offered me Fiala and Vrana for my J Robertson and Gaudreau. Is this something I should consider taking by any chance? Getting Fiala would help balance out my LW/RW inbalance as Gaudreau and Keller probably lose RW for next season on Yahoo, at least one of them at least. Thanks for the thoughtful responses in advance and I will REP when I can and if it will let me lol.
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    Default Re: J Robertson and Gaudreau for Fiala and Vrana?

    I would have to say no to that one. I couldn’t give up that much point potential by putting too much weight on positions alone. Robertson is showing he has the tools this season and Gaudreau has been off but has proven he can produce points at a high level. Just my opinion but looking to the future I think it’s a losing deal by a wide margin for you!

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    Ive never been a big believer in Fiala, and based on this season prefer Robertson’s potential over his. That means that I prefer Johnny Hockey WAY over Vrana. I would pass on this one.

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    Dear God, no! No! Just no!
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    I'd keep what you have. I have reasonable faith in all 4 of them, but Robertson is cheapest, and Gaudreau has the best name value. I think I'd want more coming back.
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    Keeping my opinion short..... no.
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    Don't do it!

    I think Robertson > Fiala long term

    and Gaudreau >>> Vrana.
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    Default Re: J Robertson and Gaudreau for Fiala and Vrana?

    totally open to moving Gaudreau in this league, but based on his name value I suspect you can get better value out of him.

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    i also say no but i think its very close...i fully expect this time next year Fiala is best player from the 4 by quite a margin. What you hearing here is recency bias when it comes to Robertson over Fiala....Having said that, as few others suggested, i think you can get more for your players
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    Default Re: J Robertson and Gaudreau for Fiala and Vrana?

    Quote Originally Posted by Belexus75 View Post
    i also say no but i think its very close...i fully expect this time next year Fiala is best player from the 4 by quite a margin. What you hearing here is recency bias when it comes to Robertson over Fiala....Having said that, as few others suggested, i think you can get more for your players
    Well Robertson is a rookie so there isn't anything other than recent events to go on unfortunately. But Robertson in his rookie season is scoring 0.88 ppg/0.33 gpg/2.47 SOGpg. Fiala didn't reach any of those marks in his rookie or his age 21 season (Robertson is currently 21). Fiala hasn't reached that ppg over any of his 5 seasons. He has outstripped Robertson in the SOG and GPG marks the last two seasons, but I don't think it's out of bounds to expect to see Robertson improve.

    I understand it's a small sample size, and that Robertson is seeing time with better linemates, but I don't think it will be all that surprising if Robertson ends up being the better player of the two.
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    R:Rantanen, Pasta, Konecny
    L:Guentzel, Gaudreau, Keller(RW), Benn
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    Thank you for all the thoughtful responses! I will give more Rep out once it lets me. I've been trying to move Gaudreau for a RW, not exactly who what type of player I could ask for in return for him.
    12 team deep keeper league, 17 main roster players, 5 prospect players, max 2 goalie keepers for the main roster. point breakdown goes as follows:
    Skaters:
    G is 4 points, 5.2 points for D goals. A is 2.5 points, 3.25 points for defense. 0.07 per FOW, 0.2 points for blocks, hits, and SOG 0.5 points for PIMS and +/-, 3 for SHG, 1.5 for SHA.
    Goalies:
    GS is 1.5 points, -1 for GA, 0.2 for SV, 4 for SHO, and 3 for W.
    Team:
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    Default Re: J Robertson and Gaudreau for Fiala and Vrana?

    So... you want to offer out Gaudreau for a RW. Options that I could see working (community input??):

    Drake Batherson
    Martin Necas
    Ryan Strome
    Domenic Kubalik
    Meier?? Mantha??

    You know your league, and your possible trading partners, sure - - but I wouldn’t trade Gaudreau for “trash,” just to do it. He may well have a decent bounce-back in ‘21-‘22.
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    I think my best shot will be Kubalik or Mantha, as the others are either too cheap and will be hard to match Gaudreau’s 6.75 M and Meier owner hates Gaudreau type players but i’ll give it a shot.

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    I think Kubalik is a decent shout. Comparable points for both, with room to improve (JG with a bounce back, DK with some linemates + chemistry) all while DK scores you wayyyy more in the peripheral cats. I would maybe sniff around that kind of deal if you could, but like others have said Gaudreau has a ton of name value so maybe you could indeed do better.
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