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    I'm in conversation with an owner who undervalues D in our league. Last year he sent me DeAngelo (which at the time was amazing until he was dropped by NYR for being another Sean Avery). Now he's open to sending Fox and Marner.

    I suspect Fox will regress a bit next year, but the team is stacked with talent - and many who aren't eligible to be picked by the Kraken. I also think Scheifele will regress a little too so I'm OK with that part of the prospective swap. Marner is by far the better talent, is proven and not as injury prone as Pettersson (who is talented by maybe not as talented as we thought initially).

    Do you do this trade?
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    F: J Robertson, Huberdeau, Rantanen, Aho, Kaprizov, Scheifele, Connor, DeBrincat, Cozens, Ehlers, Toffoli, Kopitar, Trocheck, Schmaltz, W Johnston, Teravainen, J Quinn
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    Default Re: Scheifele/Pettersson for Marner/Fox

    I prefer the marner/fox side but it’s close for me. I guess if your okay keeping and extra D and one less forward I’d take the deal. The rangers are only gonna get better and fox will be part of that and marner is on a top offensive team for years to come. Scheifele and pettersson are great owns as well but prefer Marner to both of them.

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    Default Re: Scheifele/Pettersson for Marner/Fox

    Quote Originally Posted by Swarley View Post
    I prefer the marner/fox side but it’s close for me. I guess if your okay keeping and extra D and one less forward I’d take the deal. The rangers are only gonna get better and fox will be part of that and marner is on a top offensive team for years to come. Scheifele and pettersson are great owns as well but prefer Marner to both of them.
    I'm leaning toward yes but am thinking the Marner/Fox owner is going to ask for more. Just not sure how much more. For our points only league, D are gold - so I'm OK with the imbalance. This probably means I keep Fox, Dahlin, Theodore, M Rielly, and Werenski... All three G, and back fill the F position with J Robertson as my ninth F.

    If DeAngelo finds a solid landing spot, maybe keep him rather than Robertson or Samsonov... that'll be a tough tough choice.
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    F: J Robertson, Huberdeau, Rantanen, Aho, Kaprizov, Scheifele, Connor, DeBrincat, Cozens, Ehlers, Toffoli, Kopitar, Trocheck, Schmaltz, W Johnston, Teravainen, J Quinn
    D: Dahlin, Werenski, M Rielly, S Jones, McCavoy, Gustafsson
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    i think Marner and Fox is better own to be honest. However, i would be aware that Fox could loose some offensive deployment to Lundkvist at some point....Specially if PP is struggling as Lundkvist's shot is insane...He had 16 goals in 59 games this year which is a lot for a D. Lots of those were scored on PP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belexus75 View Post
    i think Marner and Fox is better own to be honest. However, i would be aware that Fox could loose some offensive deployment to Lundkvist at some point....Specially if PP is struggling as Lundkvist's shot is insane...He had 16 goals in 59 games this year which is a lot for a D. Lots of those were scored on PP.
    Yes. Lundkvist is definitely the potential emergent threat to take top PP minutes. I'll tuck that away in the back of mind in the case there still more "sell high" room next year or afterwards for Fox.
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    F: J Robertson, Huberdeau, Rantanen, Aho, Kaprizov, Scheifele, Connor, DeBrincat, Cozens, Ehlers, Toffoli, Kopitar, Trocheck, Schmaltz, W Johnston, Teravainen, J Quinn
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    Default Re: Scheifele/Pettersson for Marner/Fox

    I'd take that deal, if you can get it.

    I wouldn't even entertain the thought of DeAngelo being keeper worthy. He might end up somewhere where's he tradeable for something.
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    Default Re: Scheifele/Pettersson for Marner/Fox

    I like Fox/Marner side the best. You basically get the best guy in the deal, who becomes your best keeper, along with fox who is a massive upgrade on your current lowest keeper D. Yes fox may lose some PP1 time down the line, but I don't see it happening next season. he may regress but if you watch NYR he looks great on that top unit, I don't see him losing that slot next year. And even if he does....you have Marner to comfort you
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    Default Re: Scheifele/Pettersson for Marner/Fox

    I think it's pretty much unanimous, take the deal.
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    Default Re: Scheifele/Pettersson for Marner/Fox

    The other GM must've talked to someone about the deal because he backed out and figures he needs more in return.

    He has rebutted with Scheifele/Point/Pettersson for Marner/Fox.

    Pretty sure I'm not taking this deal unless you all can convince me otherwise.
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    F: J Robertson, Huberdeau, Rantanen, Aho, Kaprizov, Scheifele, Connor, DeBrincat, Cozens, Ehlers, Toffoli, Kopitar, Trocheck, Schmaltz, W Johnston, Teravainen, J Quinn
    D: Dahlin, Werenski, M Rielly, S Jones, McCavoy, Gustafsson
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    Default Re: Scheifele/Pettersson for Marner/Fox

    I like the Pettersson/Scheifele side. I think this is the best we're going to see from Fox and Pettersson is going to explode next year.

    And obviously a definite no to the last proposal.
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    Walk away now, that last counter is nuts.
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    Default Re: Scheifele/Pettersson for Marner/Fox

    Quote Originally Posted by stevegamer View Post
    Walk away now, that last counter is nuts.
    I did. Figure the other GM lured me in, tempting me with the idea that they were available. But the truth seemed to be he wanted to catch my interest enough to maybe do a bad deal.

    Thanks for all the input folks!
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    F: J Robertson, Huberdeau, Rantanen, Aho, Kaprizov, Scheifele, Connor, DeBrincat, Cozens, Ehlers, Toffoli, Kopitar, Trocheck, Schmaltz, W Johnston, Teravainen, J Quinn
    D: Dahlin, Werenski, M Rielly, S Jones, McCavoy, Gustafsson
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    Default Re: Scheifele/Pettersson for Marner/Fox

    I hate when GMs offer facade deals. Oh my God, just be honest. You ruin it for the other GM and any potential talks for the future. This is what severs ties between two GMs. You respect GMs in your leagues it makes it easier for someone to come back and want to do business with you. Run your team as how you would run a business. Respect your customer so that they return.
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    Default Re: Scheifele/Pettersson for Marner/Fox

    I don't think he/she would bring you in on a 2for2 offer, then to just want to add in another high end player on your side. He/she likely heard some highlight on Fox or Marner, or the news of Pettersson out for the yr adjust their evaluation.

    I'd do the 2for2, I wouldn't do the 3for2. Sometimes it sucks not hammering accept on the offers asap, but waiting and asking typically saves you from overpaying more times than not waiting and hoping you don't miss on a great deal.
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    Default Re: Scheifele/Pettersson for Marner/Fox

    That last offer was horrible
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