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    With under a month to go, I’m up 15 Roto points and 2nd place traded away all his depth (non-keepers) at our trade deadline. It is extremely safe to say I’m back-to-back champ. I even traded Carlson away for just picks at the deadline because I’m so confident I got this. Thank you to all who helped this crazy year filled with more luck than anything.

    I wanted to post this now so that it doesn’t get lost in the millions of these questions that will happen in May.

    Here’s my question: I look at my team and I see 9 obvious keepers...but I can only keep 8. I know the smartest answer is to trade whoever gives me the most value back, but the deal is not going to go like that. Nobody is going to give me value and it will just be me dumping a whole lot of my best excess to a lower team that needs keeper help, for picks. I upgrade the lower teams keepers, for not much in return.

    Which player doesn’t make my Top 8 going into next year?

    Barkov
    Zibanejad
    Brady T
    Patty Kane
    Ovechkin
    Svech
    Hamilton
    Makar
    Hellebuyck

    Thank you.

    Whoever it is, I will package them with Mrazek, Ekblad and Wheeler for probably a 1st in 2021 and a 1st in 2023. Something like that.

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    Geez, that's a great roster.

    I'd probably move Hellebuyck - with only 12 teams in a keep 8, there are goalies available in the re-draft that can give you 80%+ of Helly's value. In most leagues, but especially one like yours, I'm willing to move goalies fairly easily; their value is either unpredictable or with the rise of tandems, there are an abundance of serviceable goalies available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by notch4077 View Post
    Barkov
    Zibanejad
    Brady T
    Patty Kane
    Ovechkin
    Svech
    Hamilton
    Makar
    Hellebuyck
    Personally I'd be looking to move Ovechkin if you can.

    He's a roto beast, but the decline is coming and I would wager that Svech's growth will kind of balance out that loss.

    So if you can pull in some assets for him now would be the time.

    Outside of that you have a tough decision to make, but a good tough decision.

    I'd hold on Hellebuyck. Outside of Vasilevsky and maybe Shesterkin, he is one of the few goalies that is guaranteed the crease and on a good team.
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    Both good answers. Thank you for giving me your thoughts.
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    First: Enjoy the title!

    Second: While I feel Ovechkin will be back in Washington, if he leaves for Russia, that answers your question. If that doesn't happen, I think the answer is to move a center, for a few reasons. It's the deepest position, your wings are a tad more elite than your centers, and your minors have centers coming.
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    Careful man... never celebrate too early

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    As far as the constructive advice goes. I wouldn't give up on trying to get good trade value back. You may be able to package a top young player like Svech or Barkov with an aging star like Kane or Ovie for an elite player (Matthews/Mack/Draisatl types). Or even package Helly with a Kane or Ovie for Vasilevsky.

    If there are any teams with an elite guy but an overall weaker 8 keepers, give that a shot first.

    If none of that works out, then yes you have a tough choice to make and it likely means one of Ovie/Kane get moved due to their age.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevegamer View Post
    I think the answer is to move a center, for a few reasons. It's the deepest position, your wings are a tad more elite than your centers, and your minors have centers coming.
    This is the type of advice that you don't get anywhere else. I would give Rep to Steve, but sadly it's telling me I need to spread my rep elsewhere. Head this advice for sure.


    Quote Originally Posted by 4T2 View Post
    You may be able to package a top young player like Svech or Barkov with an aging star like Kane or Ovie for an elite player (Matthews/Mack/Draisatl types). Or even package Helly with a Kane or Ovie for Vasilevsky.
    This!!

    My thoughts; Try to package Ovie/Kane (or both), Zibenajad, Ekblad for one of the super elite C (McDavid, Matthews, MacKinnon)... if you can make that work, then why not try.
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    As far as targets go, I'd aim for Draisiatl if he's C/W eligible. I should've mentioned that.
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    If you can’t swing a deal, then Helly maybe the one I let go, after seeing your minors with Samsonov and Sorkin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevegamer View Post
    First: Enjoy the title!

    Second: While I feel Ovechkin will be back in Washington, if he leaves for Russia, that answers your question. If that doesn't happen, I think the answer is to move a center, for a few reasons. It's the deepest position, your wings are a tad more elite than your centers, and your minors have centers coming.
    Quote Originally Posted by 4T2 View Post
    As far as the constructive advice goes. I wouldn't give up on trying to get good trade value back. You may be able to package a top young player like Svech or Barkov with an aging star like Kane or Ovie for an elite player (Matthews/Mack/Draisatl types). Or even package Helly with a Kane or Ovie for Vasilevsky.

    If there are any teams with an elite guy but an overall weaker 8 keepers, give that a shot first.

    If none of that works out, then yes you have a tough choice to make and it likely means one of Ovie/Kane get moved due to their age.
    Quote Originally Posted by stevegamer View Post
    As far as targets go, I'd aim for Draisiatl if he's C/W eligible. I should've mentioned that.
    There is one team in my league that only has 7 legit keepers...whereas I have 9. He’s the team with Draisaitl, Vasilevskiy and Panarin.

    Maybe I can do a 2 for 1 with him so we can both have just 8 elite keepers? I’m going to assume Panarin is the worst of those 3 for him, so is he even an upgrade on my 9th best or should I focus on trying to get Draisaitl or Vasilevskiy?

    Hellebuyck and Ovechkin for Vasilevskiy?
    Ovechkin and Patty Kane for Draisaitl?
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    Hellebuyck and Ovechkin for Vasilevskiy?
    Ovechkin and Patty Kane for Draisaitl?
    I'd try one of Barkov/Zibanejad and one of Ovechkin/Kane for Draisaitl. Sell it as he gets a center for FOW guy back, if needed.
    I'm not sure how big an upgrade that goalie move is, as flukiness is rampant in net.
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    I like either of the trades you suggested.

    Although I might try Kane/Helly for Vas first just so you could keep Ovenchicken. If he didn’t bite on that, I wouldn’t mind Ovie/Helly for Vas either. At their very least, this will allow you to gauge how he feels on Ovie/Kane and maybe allow you to try to pry Draisatl away.

    Although he will likely want a younger guy in their too. So it may take a Barkov and one of the aging superstars to get it done. Which is still worth it in my opinion.

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