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    Default [TRADE] Caps Acquire Mantha for Vrana

    Kevin Weekes @KevinWeekes 2m

    **Breaking News**

    Hearing @DetroitRedWings are moving Mantha to @Capitals for Panik / Vrana and more @TSNHockey

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    Holy eff

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    Deal also includes a 1st & 2nd RD picks ! @TSNHockey

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    Further to what @KevinWeekes first reported, believe the deal is:

    Vrana, Panik, 1st RD pick, 2nd RD pick in exchange for Mantha
    Full trade, just waiting on the years of the picks.

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    NEWS | The Washington Capitals have acquired forward Anthony Mantha from the Detroit Red Wings for forwards Jakub Vrana and Richard Panik, a 2021 first round pick and a 2022 second round pick.

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    https://twitter.com/KevinWeekes/stat...487489540?s=19

    **Breaking News**

    Hearing @DetroitRedWings are moving Mantha to @Capitals for Panik / Vrana and more @TSNHockey @NHLNetwork @NHL #HockeyTwitter
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    There's more to this trade. Stand by.
    10 Team, Points Only, Cash League

    25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
    Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
    Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt

    Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink

    G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger


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    Wow... this would be pretty crazy.
    Esp - given Yzerman gave Mantha 4yrs back in November.
    I've got to believe that Washington didn't like the extension terms that Vrana's agent was asking...
    And I've got to believe that Yzerman sees Vrana as a better fit for Detroit than Mantha.

    I do think Vrana has better scoring tool-kit.
    We'll see what number the Wings can get him at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    There's more to this trade. Stand by.
    Marc Staal as part of the trade? That would be huge for Washington.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PenguinHunter View Post
    Marc Staal as part of the trade? That would be huge for Washington.
    I heard picks are going back and forth too. Just waiting for confirmation.
    10 Team, Points Only, Cash League

    25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
    Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
    Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt

    Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink

    G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger


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    Mantha is an injury risk, but was on pace for 72 points last year in an 82-game season, and on pace for 60ish the year before.

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    Don't sleep on Jakub Vrana.

    5v5 points in the past three seasons combined

    Mantha: 152 GP, 28G, 27A, 65 points (0.42 points per game)
    Vrana: 190 GP, 53G, 43A, 96 points (0.50 points per game)
    There is a non-zero chance that Mantha isn't even an upgrade on Vrana, just has had more opportunity.

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    Great haul for Stevie Y!

    https://twitter.com/bobbycappucino/s...499523075?s=19

    Friedman just said Vrana, Panik, 1st, 2nd for Mantha. Holy mama.
    10 Team, Points Only, Cash League

    25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
    Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
    Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt

    Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink

    G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger


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    Deadline day is now complete. No one saw this one coming.

    Det needs, well, everything. Mantha gives them a known financial piece with ovie doe his next deal.

    agree that Vrana has the better offensive tool-kit.

    that said, Mantha hasn't hit his breakout threshold yet so there's more upside to come with him.

    This is a really intriguing deal.
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    Holy cow... a 1st AND a 2nd... wow, wow, wow.
    Great haul by Stevie Y.
    I mean, Detroit's nowhere near competing... so it makes no sense to hope that Mantha is still a good player 4 years from now at age 30.


    Makes a tad bit of sense for Washington.
    They are like the Bulls... having their last dance.
    Might as well put all the assets in with OV in his final years...

    The top 16 teams are revved up for these playoffs.
    Awesome.

    I'm glad the Flyers bailed... cause they got ZERO shot trying to compete with NYI,WAS,BOS,PIT.

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    That is an insane return. Well done Det.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucafen4 View Post
    Deadline day is now complete. No one saw this one coming.

    Det needs, well, everything. Mantha gives them a known financial piece with ovie doe his next deal.

    agree that Vrana has the better offensive tool-kit.

    that said, Mantha hasn't hit his breakout threshold yet so there's more upside to come with him.

    This is a really intriguing deal.
    I would be interested in seeing the model you're using where a player who is 26 with 300 GP hasn't hit their breakout threshold yet. Mantha (and Vrana for that matter) are who they are. Vrana probably is going to get a lot more points than he currently has to this point in career due to significantly more opportunity, rather than any increased development.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rataylor22 View Post
    I would be interested in seeing the model you're using where a player who is 26 with 300 GP hasn't hit their breakout threshold yet. Mantha (and Vrana for that matter) are who they are. Vrana probably is going to get a lot more points than he currently has to this point in career due to significantly more opportunity, rather than any increased development.
    If you go by the theory that it takes 400 games for larger and smaller players to break through, then he hasn't reached it.

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    We keep 15 players (any position) plus two rookies.

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    Sad to see him go. Love that return though. Love it a lot.

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