Reply With QuoteImportant to know cats here, but at first blush, I think Team B should be able to squeeze out a little more value from Kane and Patches.
Kane deal
Team A looking to win now or next yr.
Team B rebuilding.
Team A is asking for Kane and pacioretty from team B for a. svechnikov
if you are team B can you accept that?
pts only keeper.
gls = 3pts and ast = 2 pts
Re: Kane deal
Important to know cats here, but at first blush, I think Team B should be able to squeeze out a little more value from Kane and Patches.
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Missing cats makes it tough to give a super helpful opinion. But in general, Patches seems to throw this deal out of whack. Kane for Svech would make sense for both teams here. But with Patches involved, it feels like team B will probably have to toss in another asset.
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Just to confirm, this is Patrick Kane correct?
8 Team Dynasty - G/A/plusminus/PPP/SHP/SOG/FW/HIT/BLK ——
W/SV%/SV/SO
C: A. Matthews, E Pettersson, V Trocheck, A Kopitar, C Mittelstadt,
LW: B Marchand, B Tkachuk, K Kaprizov, J Huberdeau, V Nichushkin, E Kane, J McCann
RW: D Pastrnak, W Nylander, JT Miller, T Meier, Z Hyman, R Hartman
D: Q Hughes, B Burns, D Nurse, M Matheson, K Letang, B McNabb
G: D Kuemper, V Vanecek, J Woll
IR: L Couture, L Schenn
NA: P Kochetkov
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yes this is Patty Kane and its pts only league with goals = 3 pts and ast = 2 pts
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How many teams are there? Roster sizes, start requirements?
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10 teamsOriginally Posted by stevegamer
roster size: 30 players.
start requirements: no positions req for fwrds. must start 2 goalies, 6 D and 12 F.
keeper league.
other GM believes that Schevcnikov is worth more than Kane...but that's not what i see on the Dobber's rankings...
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Points only league like this - Kane > Svehcnikov in 1 year league.... but as Kane gets older Svechnikov will be better.
LEague that included peripheral stats like hits - Svechnikov is the better own already.
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I would rather have Kane for the next two seasons. After that its more of a question of when does Kane decline as opposed to will Svech reach Kane's current production (in a points only pool)
That said, there is always hesitation to take on older skaters in keeper leagues, so I agree now is the time to sell Kane.
2023 Champ
11 Teams - 24 player rosters - 12 Keepers (max 2 goalies)
Yahoo rotisserie - 4C, 4LW, 4RW, 6D, 2G, 4BN ,2IR
G, A, PPP, SHP, HITS, +-, PIM, BK, GS, W,GAA, SV%, SHO
C: McDavid, Lindholm, Stephenson, Norris
LW: Robertson, Fiala, Bertuzzi, Boldy,
RW: Miller, Tarasenko, Seguin, Ehlers
D: Hamilton, Karlsson, Bouchard, Nurse, Dobson, Larsson
G: Hellebuyck, Shesterkin
B: Husso, Tippett, McCabe, TT.
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Kane vs svechnikov 1 vs 1 is a fair deal. In a point only keeper, Kane will be the best player for the next 2-3 season.
Point only, Dynasty league, 16 team. Start 2G,5D,11F
F: Scheifele, Aho, Veleno, Barkov, Debrincat, Trocheck, Nick schmaltz, Kupari, Ehlers, Lunderstrom and Stone
D:A. Boqvist, Krug, Werenski, Hamilton and Nurse
G:Shestyorkin and helleybuck
Minor:
G: Woll
D: C. Foote, PO Joseph
F: A. Thomas, I. Rosen, Z. L'Heureux, T. Boucher, L. Reichel
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Being a keeper league, you will need to add a plus on top of Kane for Svech.
Given I'm not competing, I'd be willing to add Patches. Ask for another pick or something though to offset it a bit.
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Are you team A? If you are and therefore are looking to win now or next year I would not do this. As has been stated points only for this year and IMO at least next year Kane will out point Svech and I don't think it's that close.
Kane I know is on tear but he has double Svech's points this year and had 23 more points last year. For points only is Svech going to improve that much or Kane decline that much to bridge the gap next year? I would say not likely
Keep 3 League, 14 team H2H, Roster: 6F, 4D, 4BN, 2G
Cats: G, A, +/-, PPP, SOG, PIM, HITS, BLKS, W, GAA, SA, SV%
F: Matthews, Pastrnak, Hughes, Pettersson, Guentzel, Meier, Hyman, Streamer
D: Dahlin, Carlson, Trouba, Gudas, Larsson
G: Oettinger, Talbot, Swayman
One Year League, 10 Team H2H, Roster: 2C, 2LW, 2RW, W, F, 4D, UTIL, 5BN, 2G
Cats: G, A, PPP, SHP, SOG, SH%, PIM, HITS, BLKS W, GAA, SV, SV%, SHO
C: McDavid, Thomas, Rossi
LW: Guentzel, McTavish, Byfield, Huberdeau
RW: Miller, Barzal, Zuccarello, Schmaltz, Tarasenko
D: Josi, Seider, Trouba, Gudas, L. Hughes
G: Oettinger, Demko
IR: Hamilton
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so you are saying Kane is > svech this year and next yr correct?
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Correct
Keep 3 League, 14 team H2H, Roster: 6F, 4D, 4BN, 2G
Cats: G, A, +/-, PPP, SOG, PIM, HITS, BLKS, W, GAA, SA, SV%
F: Matthews, Pastrnak, Hughes, Pettersson, Guentzel, Meier, Hyman, Streamer
D: Dahlin, Carlson, Trouba, Gudas, Larsson
G: Oettinger, Talbot, Swayman
One Year League, 10 Team H2H, Roster: 2C, 2LW, 2RW, W, F, 4D, UTIL, 5BN, 2G
Cats: G, A, PPP, SHP, SOG, SH%, PIM, HITS, BLKS W, GAA, SV, SV%, SHO
C: McDavid, Thomas, Rossi
LW: Guentzel, McTavish, Byfield, Huberdeau
RW: Miller, Barzal, Zuccarello, Schmaltz, Tarasenko
D: Josi, Seider, Trouba, Gudas, L. Hughes
G: Oettinger, Demko
IR: Hamilton
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Kane is the better player in your format for the next few years, I feel. However, people value youth highly.
In a 10 team keeper, if you're rebuilding, there must be a lot of keepers. I'd probably simply keep the 2 guys you have, and work on other deals.
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