Page 3 of 4 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 LastLast
Results 31 to 45 of 53

Thread: Panarin- leave of absence

  1. #31
    GinFizz's Avatar
    GinFizz is offline
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    Posts
    1,402
    Rep Power
    26

    Dobber Sports Ace

    Default Re: Panarin- leave of absence

    Quote Originally Posted by jdreed3184 View Post
    Agreed. I mean, if he actually beat up an 18 year old girl when he was 19, he was a total ******* and should be held to account. If he didn't, then the consequences of the rumor are ridiculous (missed games, hit to reputation, salary lost, etc.)

    isnt that what is happening?

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by agentzero View Post
    What a garbage, reactionary World... some cook makes up a story to some newspaper about something that didnčt happen 10 years ago, in another country which is rife with garbage media and it has to have an impact across the pond to the point where a player has to take a leave of absence to deal with it.. Unbelievable.
    do you have proof that this never happened?

    WHL - World Hockey League (24 Team - Daily H2H)

    Maine Moose 2021-2022

    2019 WHL GM of the Year #Supersoft

  2. #32
    NJDev803's Avatar
    NJDev803 is offline
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Posts
    571
    Rep Power
    13

    Dobber Sports Apprentice

    Default Re: Panarin- leave of absence

    To many people, some kind of 'retribution' was a given after his recent public support of Navalny: https://www.blueshirtbanter.com/2021...alexei-navalny

    Whether or not the bar incident happened, who knows...definitely a lot to be skeptical of though given their political climate
    12-team H2H Yahoo League
    2C, 2LW, 2RW, 4D, 1UTIL, 2G
    G, A, +/-, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG, HIT
    W, GAA, Sv%, SO


    C: Kuznetsov, Marchessault (LW), Monahan, Hischier
    LW: Ovechkin, Marchand, Pacorietty
    RW: Rust (LW), Fiala (LW), Schmaltz (C), Atkinson
    D: Burns, Josi, Sergachev, Karlsson
    G: Gibson, Reimer
    IR: Grzelcyk, Mrazek

  3. #33
    agentzero's Avatar
    agentzero is offline
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    7,053
    Location
    Ottawa, ON
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Master

    Default Re: Panarin- leave of absence

    Quote Originally Posted by GinFizz View Post
    isnt that what is happening?

    - - - Updated - - -



    do you have proof that this never happened?
    Do you have any proof that it did?

    Allegations are allegations, just that.

    I think it’s disgusting that in this climate, allegations are taken as criminal convictions. It’s disgusting. There’s no measure.

  4. #34
    Godin's Avatar
    Godin is offline
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Posts
    4,651
    Location
    GTA
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports All-Star

    Default Re: Panarin- leave of absence

    Quote Originally Posted by agentzero View Post
    Panarin, KNOCKED out a girl with a SERIES of punches in a bar.

    A SERIES of punches. Panarin.

    Panarin went Evander Holyfield, on an 18 year old girl.

    Panarin.

    Please....

    Man, at least make the altercation sound credible.....
    No kidding. Also, 'if' it was settled with the woman 10 years ago, I wouldn't think there was anything she could do legally.

  5. #35
    hockeymanG23's Avatar
    hockeymanG23 is offline
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Posts
    4,074
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Genius

    Default Re: Panarin- leave of absence

    If he was playing in the KHL and spoke out against the Russian regime he would get poisoned, literally. Because he lives in the US they try to poison his image and social standing.

    Is it possible he did it? Sure, but the timing of it all seems very fishy.
    10 team full keeper roto 4C/LW/RW,6D,2G

    G,A,P,+/-,PIM,SOG,GWG,PPP,SHP,Hit,Blk,FOW
    W,GAA,SV,SV%,SHO

    C-Aho,Couturier,Matthews,O'Reilly
    LW-Ehlers,Giroux,Panarin,Rust
    RW-Kucherov,Palmieri,Pastrnak,Wilson
    D-Burns,Carlson,Edler,Josi,Nurse,Pietrangelo
    G-Fleury,F.Andersen,Markstrom
    BN-Getrlaf,Hornqvist,Gudas,Zacha

    Under 250 gp farm
    Beaucage,Berggren,Bokk,Brisson,Chytil,Foerster,Foo te,Frost,Grewe,Kapanen,Johnsson,Lindblom,Mikheyev, Nybeck,Olofsson,Pospisil,Protas,Roy,Suzuki,Wise
    Alexeyev,Brook,Foote,Graves,Myers,Pilut,Sanderson, Seider,Wilde,Woo,Zamula
    Berdin,Brossoit,Ersson,Husso,Knight,Kochetkov,Oett inger,Point,Primeau,Sandstrom,Stolarz,Ustimenko,Vl adar

  6. #36
    Location
    Philadelphia area
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Giant

    Default Re: Panarin- leave of absence

    We'll need to wait and see what comes out, but the allegation timing does seem very fishy. While things do sometimes get delayed organically, often allegations happen due to a trigger. For example, if it was motivated by money, it would've happened after his big contract.

    Having been on the receiving end of accusations a couple times with absolutely no credibility, I'm always leery of this sort of thing. I will tell you that when I was accused of that by a GF who was cheating on me, one will often get death threats. Turns out, the other guy was actually the one hitting her.

    I've been accused of getting a girl pregnant I never had any sort of sex with - we did kiss a few times. Also, it turned out she wasn't pregnant.
    There was also an attempt to coverup medical malpractice by blaming the accountant (me) for short staffing issues due to trying to save money by the nurse who did it.
    10 team Head-to-head true dynasty. Roster 33, draft 2, cut down before season. Start 1 G, 1 backup G, 6 D, 12 F arranged in 4 lines of 3. Only categories that matter are Goals, Assists, Save% with a shutout bonus. Having NHL teammates helps.

    G:Jarry
    Backup G: Shesterkin
    D: Carlson, Fox, Makar, M Reilly, Letang, Marino,
    F1: Couturier, Giroux, Voracek
    F2: Schiefele, Wheeler, MacKinnon
    F3: Stamkos, Point, Guentzel
    F4: Tavares, JT Miller, Pearson

    Bench:
    G: F Andersen
    D: DeAngelo, Heiskanen, Klingberg, Pionk, Ekblad
    F: Benn, Seguin, Gurianov, Necas, Bertuzzi, Eriksson Ek
    Reserve: Datsyuk

  7. #37
    Location
    Nova Scotia
    Rep Power
    40

    Dobber Sports Immortal

    Default Re: Panarin- leave of absence

    Quote Originally Posted by agentzero View Post
    Do you have any proof that it did?

    Allegations are allegations, just that.

    I think it’s disgusting that in this climate, allegations are taken as criminal convictions. It’s disgusting. There’s no measure.
    #cancelculture

    It's the way it is today.
    10 Team, Points Only, Cash League

    25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
    Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
    Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt

    Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Couture, Wheeler, Lee, Gusev, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Burns, DeAngelo, JSchwartz, KHayes, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, Domi, Cozenz, Hayton, Vrana

    G- Vasilevskiy, Bobrovsky, Sorokin


    "Cleavage is like the sun. You can look, but dont stare.. Unless you're wearing sunglasses."

  8. #38
    Location
    Hamilton, ON
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Ninja

    Default Re: Panarin- leave of absence

    Can anyone else imagine Putin sitting there in his chair thinking, "OMG WHY DOESN'T AMERICA BELEIVE US ABOUT PANARIN?!" lol. Like "How can they not believe my stories about an athlete hitting a female?! It's a fool proof, proven tactic! Get Trump on the phone. He's not the President?! Well why the f did we pay to have him win then?!"


    I do like how the general public is able to sniff out a lie. Or question it.

    The good thing is that the players on Vityaz have come out and said that they were at the bar with Panarin that night and the reports are completely false. A hotel spokesperson where the incident "occurred' said the reports are false.
    12 team, H2H, 6 keeper league (Keepers in Bold)
    G, A, Pts, +/-, PPP, PIM, FW
    W, GAA, S%, Saves
    2C, 2RW, 2LW, 4D, 2G

    C: Eichel, Pettersson,
    LW: Hoffman (RW), Pavelski (C), Greenway (RW)
    RW: Marner, Ehlers (LW), Hornqvist, Brown
    D: Carlson, Makar, Theodore, Doughty, Pietrangelo
    G: Hellebuyck, Bobrovsky, Blackwood
    IR: Dach,
    NA: Robertson

  9. #39
    agentzero's Avatar
    agentzero is offline
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    7,053
    Location
    Ottawa, ON
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Master

    Default Re: Panarin- leave of absence

    Quote Originally Posted by 2014olympicgold View Post

    I do like how the general public is able to sniff out a lie. Or question it.
    It is a rarer skill than you think, unfortunately...

    Way too many people believe disinformation.
    Blades of Steel
    10 Team Full Keeper - Pts Only (G,A,W,SO)

    Crosby, Backstrom, Wheeler, Bergeron, Point, Connor, Kopitar, E.Lindholm, Pastrnak, DeBrincat
    Karlsson, S.Weber, Yandle, Theodore, Letang
    Hellebuyck, Shesterkin
    Vrana, Hoffman, Bjorkstrand, Dadonov, Gusev, Zuccarello, Spurgeon, Pulock, Saros, Rinne

  10. #40
    agentzero's Avatar
    agentzero is offline
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    7,053
    Location
    Ottawa, ON
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Master

    Default Re: Panarin- leave of absence

    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    #cancelculture

    It's the way it is today.
    It has always been this way, but social media has given too many people a platform to do too much damage too quickly, before it can be reversed.
    Blades of Steel
    10 Team Full Keeper - Pts Only (G,A,W,SO)

    Crosby, Backstrom, Wheeler, Bergeron, Point, Connor, Kopitar, E.Lindholm, Pastrnak, DeBrincat
    Karlsson, S.Weber, Yandle, Theodore, Letang
    Hellebuyck, Shesterkin
    Vrana, Hoffman, Bjorkstrand, Dadonov, Gusev, Zuccarello, Spurgeon, Pulock, Saros, Rinne

  11. #41
    GinFizz's Avatar
    GinFizz is offline
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    Posts
    1,402
    Rep Power
    26

    Dobber Sports Ace

    Default Re: Panarin- leave of absence

    Quote Originally Posted by agentzero View Post
    Do you have any proof that it did?

    Allegations are allegations, just that.

    I think it’s disgusting that in this climate, allegations are taken as criminal convictions. It’s disgusting. There’s no measure.
    no i dont. yes it is allegations but that is not what you said up thread. You said that it didnt happen 10yrs ago. that is what i was questioning.

    WHL - World Hockey League (24 Team - Daily H2H)

    Maine Moose 2021-2022

    2019 WHL GM of the Year #Supersoft

  12. #42
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Ninja

    Default Re: Panarin- leave of absence

    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    #cancelculture

    It's the way it is today.
    Potentially a lot more going on here than just a twitter hashtag and conservative boogieman term.

    When you add in the layer of a foreign state that has a history of killing political opponents it gets a lot scarier for Panarin.

    No idea what the truth is here, but this could be a lot more complicated than a typical accusation.

    There is very little typical about this situation.

  13. #43
    agentzero's Avatar
    agentzero is offline
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    7,053
    Location
    Ottawa, ON
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Master

    Default Re: Panarin- leave of absence

    Quote Originally Posted by GinFizz View Post
    no i dont. yes it is allegations but that is not what you said up thread. You said that it didnt happen 10yrs ago. that is what i was questioning.
    I am betting that it didn't happen and his teammates and the owner of the establishment have all said it didn't happen.

    Also, an allegation in fact is just that. Alleging something doesn't mean it actually happened, it means someone is simply saying that it did. Until I see evidence, I presume it didn't happen.

    That is what is lost today. The presumption of innocence. It's supposed to last until a court of law proves that it did happen, beyond all reasonable doubt. So that's a huge gap there, from an allegation, where we are supposed to presume that it didn't happen (geez especially with no evidence), to conclusive proof that it did, beyond all reasonable doubt. Not any reasonable doubt, but all reasonable doubt.

    That's why I think this is garbage because not everyone plays along with the presumption of innocence like we are all supposed to.

    So yes, along with the presumption of innocence, I am with Panarin and I say that this didn't happen, until a court of law proves that it did.
    Blades of Steel
    10 Team Full Keeper - Pts Only (G,A,W,SO)

    Crosby, Backstrom, Wheeler, Bergeron, Point, Connor, Kopitar, E.Lindholm, Pastrnak, DeBrincat
    Karlsson, S.Weber, Yandle, Theodore, Letang
    Hellebuyck, Shesterkin
    Vrana, Hoffman, Bjorkstrand, Dadonov, Gusev, Zuccarello, Spurgeon, Pulock, Saros, Rinne

  14. #44
    Location
    Hamilton, ON
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Ninja

    Default Re: Panarin- leave of absence

    Players who were at the bar/hotel said it didn't happen
    The workers at the bar/hotel said it didn't happen
    No Police report on the situation
    The guy who said it happened came out after and said Panarin bought the police to not open a report for $40,000. But only said it after the news about No police report came out...

    Ya sounds very true...
    12 team, H2H, 6 keeper league (Keepers in Bold)
    G, A, Pts, +/-, PPP, PIM, FW
    W, GAA, S%, Saves
    2C, 2RW, 2LW, 4D, 2G

    C: Eichel, Pettersson,
    LW: Hoffman (RW), Pavelski (C), Greenway (RW)
    RW: Marner, Ehlers (LW), Hornqvist, Brown
    D: Carlson, Makar, Theodore, Doughty, Pietrangelo
    G: Hellebuyck, Bobrovsky, Blackwood
    IR: Dach,
    NA: Robertson

  15. #45
    Rep Power
    40

    Dobber Sports Ninja

    Default Re: Panarin- leave of absence

    Quote Originally Posted by 2014olympicgold View Post
    The good thing is that the players on Vityaz have come out and said that they were at the bar with Panarin that night and the reports are completely false. A hotel spokesperson where the incident "occurred' said the reports are false.
    I just hope we don't see another Russian plane crash with a whole hockey team on it.... RIP Lokomotiv Yaroslavl players.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------



Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •