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    So I am in the middle of the pack right now in a 16-team H2H dynasty league with G, A, PPP, +/-, PIM, SOG, W, GAA, SV%, SHO as categories. We start 3C, 3LW, 3RW, 6D, and 1 goalie.

    My current line-up:
    Center:
    Crosby
    Larkin
    Getzlaf
    Dubois

    LW:
    Benn
    Panarin
    Kreider
    Vrana
    Kaprizov

    RW:
    Tarasenko
    Yamamoto
    Killorn
    Labanc
    Smith
    Vatrano

    D:
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    Weber
    Ristolainen
    Parayko
    Myers
    Shattenkirk
    Ghost
    Chara

    G:
    Hellebuyck
    Shesterkin
    Halak
    Rinne
    Sorokin (minors)

    I feel like my scoring is not where it should be and I am weak at RW and D. With us starting only 1G, I need to move at least 1.
    One of the owners wants Helle and made 2 of Krug, Wheeler, and Atkinson available. I just don’t think it is enough for Helle. He has other players that certainly interest me more: McDavid, Barkov, Gaudreau, Carlson, Hedman, Giordano, Pionk. I did not include Marchand or Ovechkin since my LW is already pretty stacked.

    I am trying to propose a counter. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

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    Default Re: Hellebuyck trade

    That is definitely not enough for helle, he is in his prime years right now. May let in a few extra goals this year with that division but is still a great keeper goalie. If you are set on trading him, send him a offer of what you think he is worth and go from there

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    That's not good enough.

    Shop Halak for some lesser help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevegamer View Post
    That's not good enough.

    Shop Halak for some lesser help.
    I definitely have tried that but people dont’ want to pay anything decent for him.

    The guy who wants Helle has put Hedman in play. Would it be crazy to swap Helle for him??

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    I most likely wouldn't trade him for Hedman as the lead guy in a package.

    How often do you even play Halak? I'd think you could find a guy who can help you on more nights, with a longer future in the league. Not a world-beater, but somebody solid. Then again, your team is pretty deep.
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    If you could get Hedman and Wheeler for Helle and Ghost I would consider a win. Although you're 16 teams only playing one goalie makes goalies less valuable than the traditional 12 team league with 2 goalies.
    12 team league HTH Dynasty (Yahoo)
    Cats: G, A, P, +/-,PIM, PPP, SHP, SOG, H, W, GAA, Sv, Sv%, SHO
    Roster: C,C,LW,LW,RW,RW,W,F,F,F, D,D,D,D,D, UTIL,UTIL, G,G, 9 BN, 5 IR, 5 IR+, 5 NA
    Farm: 7 players (Threshold 100 GP Players' 50 GP Goalies)
    Players (25 Keepers):
    C Nugent-Hopkins, Aho, Crosby, Giroux, Kuznetzov
    LW: JT Miller, Evander Kane, Domi, Benn
    RW: Killorn, Yamamoto, Pastrnak, Marner
    D: Letang, Girard, Klefbaum, Theodore, Ekman- Larsson
    G Grubauer, Francouz, Fleury, Lehner, Nedeljkovic, Crawford
    Farm (5 Keeepers):
    Valimaki, Turcotte, Krebs, Gauthier, Dobson
    On bubble: Armia, Andreas Johnsson, Annunen (G), Delia (G)

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    Default Re: Hellebuyck trade

    Quote Originally Posted by stevegamer View Post
    I most likely wouldn't trade him for Hedman as the lead guy in a package.

    How often do you even play Halak? I'd think you could find a guy who can help you on more nights, with a longer future in the league. Not a world-beater, but somebody solid. Then again, your team is pretty deep.
    I have been trying to strategically play him based on the opponent. Of course I did not start him against the Rangers when he got a shutout. ��.
    I totally agree. I am looking for a solid piece back. Nothing crazy but I am getting lowball offers. I will keep trying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sportsnut View Post
    If you could get Hedman and Wheeler for Helle and Ghost I would consider a win. Although you're 16 teams only playing one goalie makes goalies less valuable than the traditional 12 team league with 2 goalies.
    I don’t think he would go for that. Ghost lost all of his value and while he is playing better this year, he is not getting any points.

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    with starting one goalie and Sorokin knocking on the door, i would shop Igor, i think he may bring more in return as he is still the nice shiny toy, but Helle is still a better goalie
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    Skaters: G/A/Pt/PIM/SoG/STP/H+B/ToI/Corsi
    Goalies: W/GAA/SVs/SV%/SHO

    C: Eichel, Kadri, Mcdavid, Sodeberg, Schenn
    LW: Ehlers, Landeskog, Meier, Debrusk, Foegele, Lee
    RW: Pastrnak, Marner, Palmieri, Terry, D. Brown, Bailey, Granlund
    D: Krug, Josi, Ekholm, Faulk, Muzzin, Karlsson, Cernak,
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    Default Re: Hellebuyck trade

    I think your analysis is good. Based on your league being 9F/6D/1G, Defense is the prime position here based on scarcity. Goalies are least important in this league being 1G and 16 teams, and you have lots of good options. I would 100% be shopping Helle here but you need to hit a home run.

    The original offer is no good. Hedman is a strong start but you need a second solid piece coming back and I would look for someone younger than Wheeler.

    If he's not willing to up the Aunty beyond that, let the league know you have gotten some interest in Helle and shop him. See what other might be willing to offer. A strong D and RW or C is your optimal return. You can through in a lesser kicker to help solidify a deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belexus75 View Post
    with starting one goalie and Sorokin knocking on the door, i would shop Igor, i think he may bring more in return as he is still the nice shiny toy, but Helle is still a better goalie
    yes I agree with this
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    Skaters G, A, Blk, FOW, HIT, STP, PIM, Tk, SOG. bonus for D pts
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    Danault, Granlund, Seguin, Domi
    LW- Nichushkin, Svechnikov, Vatrano, Palat, Marchment
    RW -Rust, M Tkachuk, Konecny, Pavelski, Ehlers
    D - Carlson, Seider, Karlsson, Ekblad, Krug, Manson, Gudas, Walman
    G - Georgiev, Vanecek, Talbot, Daccord
    M - Gauthier, Savoie, Kasper, Nazar, Bolduc, Bystedt, Cossa, Daws




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    Default Re: Hellebuyck trade

    So just to revive this thread as I was offered Hedman + Atkinson for Hellebuyck. I really do need an upgrade in D and can still run with Shesterkin, Halak, Rinne, and Sorokin. But I feel like this is not enough for Helle.

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    Default Re: Hellebuyck trade

    Any thoughts?

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