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    I can’t be what I am hearing here. Finding what Kucherov does is easier to find what Tkachuk does? Wild. Points are ALWAYS harder to find than hits and blocks. Kucherov will destroy Tkachuk every year for the foreseeable future in goals assists and ppp. Who cares about hits and blocks you can find those from 100 guys on the waiver wire. Is the world going mad.

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    Other GM has now offered me this:

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    Kucherov
    Yamamoto
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    2nd

    For my

    B. Tkachuk
    Giroux
    14th
    15th

    I have no interest in including Giroux for Yams.
    I have a feeling I could land Kuch + 1st for Tkachuk.
    Tkachuk is 6 years younger.
    Kuch will be 28 this year. Is it reasonable to expect 5 more years of elite points and SOG?

    Opinions so far are pretty divided.
    Hoping to get some more input...

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    I think it's reasonable to expect 5 more years of elite points & SOG from Kucherov. Also reasonable to expect elite SOG & hits from Tkachuk - he actually shot more last year in less games.

    If you're rebuilding Yamamoto for Giroux isn't terrible, but you do have FOW. Giroux is a top 10 FO guy in the league by skill, but may only be #2 on his own team.

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    If you feel that your team is not capable to compete for the title for the next 2 years then keep Brady for sure. He will be a great core player to build around.

    ps - but still you know your league best. Do you feel that Kucherov will have more value than Brady next season? ..it probably depends also on Kucherov performance in this year playoffs(assuming he will be back)
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    I would rather keep Giroux.
    My rebuild is only for this season.
    My keepers are pretty good. I just have to decide on a keeper goalie.
    I traded away most of my high draft picks for this season, but looking at next season, I should be able to compete. My keepers include:

    B. Tkachuk
    Rantanen
    A. Svechnikov
    Guentzel
    Laine
    Horvat
    Larkin
    Dahlin
    Letang
    one of Varlamov, Blackwood or Mrazek

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian Rocket 10 View Post
    I would rather keep Giroux.
    My rebuild is only for this season.
    My keepers are pretty good. I just have to decide on a keeper goalie.
    I traded away most of my high draft picks for this season, but looking at next season, I should be able to compete. My keepers include:

    B. Tkachuk
    Rantanen
    A. Svechnikov
    Guentzel
    Laine
    Horvat
    Larkin
    Dahlin
    Letang
    one of Varlamov, Blackwood or Mrazek
    As it is, I need to find room to fit Giroux, or target him or Letang as redraft players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian Rocket 10 View Post
    I would rather keep Giroux.
    My rebuild is only for this season.
    My keepers are pretty good. I just have to decide on a keeper goalie.
    I traded away most of my high draft picks for this season, but looking at next season, I should be able to compete. My keepers include:

    B. Tkachuk
    Rantanen
    A. Svechnikov
    Guentzel
    Laine
    Horvat
    Larkin
    Dahlin
    Letang
    one of Varlamov, Blackwood or Mrazek
    You have a solid core of players. Its hard to believe that you are in last place! How many teams are in your league btw?
    Only Dahlin and Larkin are underperforming out of these players you mentioned...thats just two players...
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    Quote Originally Posted by j0hn_d0e View Post
    You have a solid core of players. Its hard to believe that you are in last place! How many teams are in your league btw?
    Only Dahlin and Larkin are underperforming out of these players you mentioned...thats just two players...
    I had only one pick in the first 6 rounds this year.
    Traded a lot of picks away to acquire some of these keepers.
    10 teams in this league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian Rocket 10 View Post
    I had only one pick in the first 6 rounds this year.
    Traded a lot of picks away to acquire some of these keepers.
    10 teams in this league.
    Got you. So you are ready to copete next season. If Im you I would probably keep:

    B. Tkachuk
    Rantanen
    A. Svechnikov
    Guentzel
    Laine
    Horvat
    Larkin
    Dahlin
    Varlamov
    Blackwood

    I think I would go for Kucherov if that offer is on the table. You also mentioned Giroux..not sure who should be the drop in order to make room for him. Theres still time for the keepers decision tho. A lot of things could change until then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j0hn_d0e View Post
    Got you. So you are ready to copete next season. If Im you I would probably keep:

    B. Tkachuk
    Rantanen
    A. Svechnikov
    Guentzel
    Laine
    Horvat
    Larkin
    Dahlin
    Varlamov
    Blackwood

    I think I would go for Kucherov if that offer is on the table. You also mentioned Giroux..not sure who should be the drop in order to make room for him. Theres still time for the keepers decision tho. A lot of things could change until then.
    No love for Mrazek?
    With Sorokin's play, I'm thinking Varlamov's value will take a dip next season.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Question is, "Is my team better off with Kucherov instead of B. Tkachuk?"

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    I agree Tkachuk is awesome now but players that Hit alot rend to slow down sooner and eventually this type of play catches up with them. Expecting him to perform this way for 10 years is expecting alot and expect alot as it really takes a toll on the body (i.e. Jamie Benn) with the exception of Ovechkin. Tkachuk will get you more SOG's and +++ on Hits, but Kucherov will still get you 250 SOG's a year, +++ on points and ++ on PPP. So the question to me is what is easier to find in FA or replace, and that is Hits so while I really like Tkachuk I would take Kucherov in this case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian Rocket 10 View Post
    No love for Mrazek?
    With Sorokin's play, I'm thinking Varlamov's value will take a dip next season.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Question is, "Is my team better off with Kucherov instead of B. Tkachuk?"
    Im putting Mrazek behind Blackwood and Varlamov in pure talan basis. The fact that Mrazek is FA this summer is another big reason. A lot of his fantasy value comes because he is playing for Carolina(one of the very best teams in the league)
    But there is still time for the keepers decision.
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    So I pulled the trigger with Giroux and Varlamov included.
    I ended up with Kucherov + 1st, 2nd & 2nd for next season.

    I'm okay with losing Varlamov and Giroux. I'll keep Letang now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian Rocket 10 View Post
    As it is, I need to find room to fit Giroux, or target him or Letang as redraft players.
    I'd keep Letang over Giroux.
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