McDavid trade Time to walk away

[Grapes]

Keep 6 , team in signature.

I think it’s time to walk away.
Tried everything to obtain Marner. It came down to including McDavid.

Offer 1:
McDavid, koskinen, Bjorkstrand for Marner, Point, Connor

Offer 2:
McDavid, Marchand, Ristolainen, Kuemper for Marner, Point, Barkov, Connor, Gibson.

Time to walk away and hold onto McDavid ?

[hockeymanG23]

Limited keeper? Yeah, walk away.

First deal is the more acceptable of the two IMO. You'd be swapping McD and Hall probably as keepers for Marner and Point. I prefer having the trump card of BPA in a points only pool here.

In the second one I think your giving up the two best players in the trade. McD and Marchand.

In a full keeper I think an argument could possibly be made for either one of those since a quantity of talent can make sense over the pure quality of the top assets in those situations but I just don't see that being the case here.

[bud6869]

Man it looks like you’re paying a lot for the privilege of trading away McDavid. I don’t like either deal really.

[Axeman33]

Walk away. You might want Marner, but if it's going to cost you McDavid in some sort of deal, walk away.

[Grapes]

Appreciate it boys, have been struggling with this one far too long, lots of back and forth with OGM.
Walking away, nothing to see here.

[RizzeeDizzee]

Always remember that the more someone pushes for a player the more you need to be skeptical of offers they make. Either you have to get something 100% lopsided in your favor, or, in this case, hold pat.

[Skeeps]

Keep 6 , team in signature.

I think it’s time to walk away.
Tried everything to obtain Marner. It came down to including McDavid.

Offer 1:
McDavid, koskinen, Bjorkstrand for Marner, Point, Connor

Offer 2:
McDavid, Marchand, Ristolainen, Kuemper for Marner, Point, Barkov, Connor, Gibson.

Time to walk away and hold onto McDavid ?

So when all is said and done, your 6 keepers would now be:
Marner, Point, Barkov, Connor, Panarin and Vasilevsky
vs
McDavid, Malkin, Panarin, Marchand, Hall, Vasilevsky

I would probably do this. You get a hell of a lot younger and do not lose really in points (Marchand is still amazing and will be for 2 years, Malkin looks tired, disinterested and is almost 35, Hall is sooo overrated in my books).

[Pengwin7]

Agree with others.
McDavid's value is HIGHEST in shallower keepers.
Because he's going to be paired in a two-for-two trade.

Let's say McDavid(100)+Provorov(50) for Marner(90)+Q.Hughes(60) is the deal.
150 for 150

In a deep keeper, it's a level trade.
Maybe the waiver F is 50pts... and the waiver D is 30pts.
The relative difference for either side is going to be 150-80 = 70.

In a shallow keeper, the least-player might be close to replaceable/upgradeable
Maybe the waiver F is 70pts... and the waiver D is 45pts.
The relative difference for either side is going to be 150-115 = 35.
BUT... the key part... is that IF a 45pt D man is on the wire... then he's pretty close to Provorov.
If you find a 52pt D man... then you replace Provorov and your side has 152. (McDavid 100/52)

People don't always understand it when they say "The better player-side usually wins"... but this is why.
Because trades are usually 2-for-2 when the top player is better than the #2 player.
It's the EASE/LIKELIHOOD of replacing the secondary player that give the team with the BEST player the ultimate win.

So... keep McDavid.