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    I've made an offer to the GM with PLD.
    It is for my league in signature.

    I believe I have made a fair offer, but looking to for othe opinions.
    I have offered 2021 3rd round pick(early in the round), Nikita Gusev and Christian Dvorak for PLD.

    I was back and forth over offering Kyrou instead of Gusev or adding Kyrou (or Zadina) as a 3rd piece in the offer. He is in a small rebuild for this season, so that he is in a better situation for next season.

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    It's not an offer that would pique my interest unless Kyrou is part of it, then maybe. But, you never know what the other towner is thinking unless you ask him.
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    Hard to say how others think when it comes to trade offers. I can only speak for my own preference. I wouldn't trade PLD for that. Part of it has to do with the fact that it's not just PLD I'd be trading away because I'd have to make room on my roster for the extra asset you'd be moving to me. Maybe he's got some duds and it's not a big deal to drop some players to make room. I don't know that.

    To me, this looks like a quantity for quality (not saying the guys you are offering arent decent) type offer and I rarely bite on those unless theres some serious upside with the quantity part. Usually, there isn't. That being said, the only way you'll ever find out is to make the offer and see where it goes.
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    Here is a trade I just made for PLD.

    PLD/Myers for Necas/Coyle

    Settings down below. Myers was just to balance the trade. I will drop him for a free agent.
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    I'm wondering what the scoring format here is? I like PDL in a multi cat a bit more than I like him in a Pts only. That obviously drives how much I am prepared to pay. Kyrou, Gusev or Zadina are more one dimensional than PDL IMO, so if you believe PDL will stuff the stats moving two of the three guys mentioned for him is not a bad thing at all. In a pts only I see the return being somewhat diminished.
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    If people think PLD is under appreciated.
    Then poor Dvorak.
    There's a guy ready to bust out.

    Gusev 1pt in 6gp. he has little to no value right now. it's hard to sell cold.
    Dvorak use to be a forum favourite prospect - now he holds almost no name value.
    Unless the OGM is real savvy even Kyrou won't get it done.

    PLD is 90% of the name-weight of this deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubba55 View Post
    I'm wondering what the scoring format here is? I like PDL in a multi cat a bit more than I like him in a Pts only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucafen4 View Post
    If people think PLD is under appreciated.
    Then poor Dvorak.
    There's a guy ready to bust out.

    Gusev 1pt in 6gp. he has little to no value right now. it's hard to sell cold.
    Dvorak use to be a forum favourite prospect - now he holds almost no name value.
    Unless the OGM is real savvy even Kyrou won't get it done.

    PLD is 90% of the name-weight of this deal.
    This GM in question is fairly well informed. He's been playing longer then myself, and I've been apart of this league and game for 9yrs.

    Agree that PLD has the bigger name weight and has put up the better seasons thus far. I drafted Dvorak in his 1st eligible yr and held him since. However his card this season doesn't help me enough.
    But I went with Dvorak because of last season, his start this season and I believe he still has another gear yet to his game and I could see him being a mid 60's pt player. But I am happy to keep Dvorak too.
    Gusev because I think he could have a strong season this year and give him a good card for next yr.
    Part of why I didn't use Kyrou to start is that he's off to a great start and I didn't want him to think that I am trying to sell these 6 games as what to expect of Kyrou going forward.

    I can upgraded the pick into the 2nd round, can't give him a 1st rounder. He already has it from our earlier trade.

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    Axe there is no concerns about having to drop anyone to make this trade occur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daydream Nation View Post
    Here is a trade I just made for PLD.

    PLD/Myers for Necas/Coyle

    Settings down below. Myers was just to balance the trade. I will drop him for a free agent.
    Was that Tyler Myers or Phillippe Myers?

    Either way that is a good trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDard View Post
    Was that Tyler Myers or Phillippe Myers?

    Either way that is a good trade.
    Tyler Myers who I might end up dropping. Yeah, I was happy with it. The league has grit stats and I like the prospects of PLD and Ehlers. Hopefully, they get some softer matchups on the 2nd line.
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