Looking at your team, I think you should be in "win now" mode. So I would say no to this trade. Kucherov is only 27 and will out score Yamamoto for the next 8 seasons. Maybe dangle Stamkos instead of Kucherov and see what bites...
Hello! I'm in a 10 team standard dynasty keeper league here...
I've been offered Yamamoto, Seguin (recovering from surgery untill at least mid March), and a 1st round pick (projected to be the middle of a 10 team round) for Nikita Kucherov (done for the season).
I'm stuck. Give up an elite top 5 guy in Kucherov for two very nice players and a good pick. Kucherov doesn't help this season obviously. But it will drastically reshape my team and the league in the process... Is this a fair offer? Who wins?
Thanks for your help!
10 Team, (points only) Keeper
F: Kucherov, Stamkos, Ovechkin, Zibanejad, Nylander, Bjorkstrand, R.Johansen, Perron, Buchnevich.
D: Burns, Klingberg, Provorov, Fox, DeAngelo, Grzelcyk.
G: Vasilevskiy, Shesterkin, Koskinen, Saros, Georgiev.
Bench: Gurianov, Hintz, Norris, Chytil, Thornton.
Looking at your team, I think you should be in "win now" mode. So I would say no to this trade. Kucherov is only 27 and will out score Yamamoto for the next 8 seasons. Maybe dangle Stamkos instead of Kucherov and see what bites...
In a 12 man league where we start 9F, 5D, 1 skater and 2 G daily. It is a H2H league - we keep 2 players but if kept in consecutive season, the draft position is subtracted 5 rounds (17th rounder to 12th rounder).
G, A, +/-, PPP, GWG, HIT, BLK, and DEF.
F - Zibenajad, Nugent-Hopkins, Panarin, Marchand, Hoffman, Cirelli, Kaprizov, Josh Anderson, Burakovsky, Kotkaniemi, Hischier, Arvidsson,
D - Slavin, Doughty, Weber, M. Pettersson, Orlov, McNabb
W, SV, SV% and SO.
G - Varlamov, Sorokin, Lehner, Binnington
IR - Rossi
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Personally I would not be trading an elite player like Kucherov for that package.
8 Teams - Season long points only limited keeper (7F, 4D, 1G) cap league using cap hit
Active lineup : 20 (12F, 6D, 2G)
Bench: 6 (3F, 2D, 1G)
10 trades for FAs + 10 moves between lineup and bench
G (1 pt), A (1), W (2), SO (2), OTL (1)
F: McDavid, Stutzle, Hischier, Hyman, Konecny, Raymond, Perfetti, Guentzel, Bratt, Drouin, JT Miller, Peterka, Guenther, L. Carlsson, Zary
D: Makar, Q. Hughes, Malinski, Durzi, Harley, Sanderson, Clarke, Lundkvist
G:Sorokin, Demko, Georgiev
NHL cap : $83.5 cap (bench doesn't count against cap)
Trade Kucherov for the win, yes. Trade Kucherov for this package, no. Seguin is not gonna help you this season, the first is not going to help you this season, and Yamamoto is just OK.
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If you trade an elite player, you need to get an elite player back or a package that includes a future elite player/+. But you're not in a rebuild...if your going for the win and Kuch is hurting you, maybe a lower tier elite player might be worth it.
10 team H2H !Y League (4 keepers - at least 1 must be a D-man OR Goalie)
Start - 2C, 2L, 2R, 1U, 3D, 2G, 6Bench, 2IR, 2IR+ (Daily) (5 moves per week)
Skaters - G, A, +/-, PPP, PIM, HITS, BS, GWG, SOG
Goalies - Wins, Saves, S%, GAA (Min. 4 starts)
Championships 2007, 2009, 2012, 2016, 2017, 2019*, 2023
C-McDavid, Trocheck, Suzuki
L-B.Tkachuk(C/L), Forsberg, Konecny(L/R)
R-Hyman(L/R), Svechnikov(L/R), P. Kane
D-Dahlin, Josi,
G-DeSmith, Thompson, Hill
IR-Demko
If you trade Kucherov, it is to go all in right now. An injured player like Seguin does not help you achieve that. Far from it.
For what it's worth, I would wait closer to the trade deadline to part with Kucherov. (If you try to win it all this year, that is.) Many more teams will be out of contention and will start looking at next year, therefore offering better packages.
12 Teams H2H Dynasty, 4C, 4LW, 4RW, 6D, 2G, 12 bench
G: 4.5 A: 2.5 STP: 1 SOG/Hits/Blocks: 0.5 W: 3 SV: 0.25 GA: -1 SHO: 2
C: Zibanejad, Couturier, Couture, Kadri, Nelson, Pageau
LW: Miller, E. Kane, Schenn, Crouse, Vatrano, Henrique
RW: Kucherov, Wilson, Giroux, Toffoli, Tippett, Wheeler, Eberle, Brown
D: Chabot, S. Jones, DeAngelo, Krug, Spurgeon, Orlov, Gudas, Fehervary, Fowler
G: Vasilevskiy, Hellebuyck, Thompson, Montembeault
IR: Landeskog
21 minors (< 80GP):
F : Miroshnichenko, Brink, Kovalenko, Beckman, Phillips, Sokolov, Farrell, Poitras, Dufour, Whitelaw
D : Spence, Svozil, Pickering, Lacombe, Kaiser
G: Silovs, Fowler, Bussi, Ersson, Zherenko, Kolosov
If you're thinking of moving Kucherov, I would make it public and see what kind of bids come in. If you don't like any, keep him. But I find it hard to believe you won't get better offers than what you have show here. I wouldn't even consider this package.
12 Teams, 23 Players (max 3 goalies), H2H, Keep 15 (max 2 goalies)
2C, 2RW, 2LW, 2F, 1U, 4D, 2G, 8 Bench, 2 IR+
G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, HIT, BLK, W, SV, SV%, SHO
Keepers:
C - Matthews, Eichel, Hughes (LW), Pettersson
LW - Kaprizov, Svechnikov (RW), Guentzel, Fiala, Keller (RW)
RW - Marner, Meier (LW), Laine(C/LW), Jarvis (C)
D - Dahlin, Sergachev, Theodore, Klingberg, Werenski, Peeke, Cernak
G - Shesterkin, Sorokin, Merzlikins
IR - Pacioretty, Ristolainen
2023 Draft Picks: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
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If Seguin was coming back next week, then it'd be fine. However there isn't enough help right now to do this, as others have said.
Either shop him now or wait a bit. I'd be likely to wait and see how much you actually need the help.
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10 Team, (points only) Keeper
F: Kucherov, Stamkos, Ovechkin, Zibanejad, Nylander, Bjorkstrand, R.Johansen, Perron, Buchnevich.
D: Burns, Klingberg, Provorov, Fox, DeAngelo, Grzelcyk.
G: Vasilevskiy, Shesterkin, Koskinen, Saros, Georgiev.
Bench: Gurianov, Hintz, Norris, Chytil, Thornton.