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    Good morning 😊

    I need some help with my keeper decision…here the facts:
    12 teams, keep 10 league with cats g, a, +/-, ppp, gwg, sog, hits, blk and wins, gaa, saves, sv%
    4c, 4lw, 4rw, 6d, 2g, 8 bench
    C: MacKinnon, Eichel, RNH (LW) Cirelli, Trochek
    LW: Svechnikov (RW), JT Miller (RW), Fiala (RW), Skinner
    RW: Mantha (LW), Gallagher, Palmieri, Zucker (LW)
    D: Carlson, Hughes, Karlsson, Provorov, Edler, Keith, Klefbom, Graves
    G: Jarry, Halak, Raanta

    Safe keepers are obviously MacKinnon, Eichel, Svechnikov, Miller, Carlson, Hughes.
    My thoughts about the not so safe keepers:
    RNH – no blocks, no hits but pp1 in Edmonton is gold. Contract season
    Fiala – no blocks, no hits, but 1st line and 1st pp and a good chance to be a ppg player with Kaprizov
    Mantha- I really like this package, he just needs to stay healthy
    Karlsson – one more chance? He isn’t the Karlsson from 5 years ago, but should still be good for 60+ points (82games), lots of ppp and triple digit blk
    Provorov – he can do it all, but with Gustavsson on the team will likely play second fiddle on the pp
    Jarry – is he good enough to justify a keeper spot over one of the other options above? With so many b2b situations and many teams playing their goalies on a 50:50 or 60:40 base, wouldn’t it be better to keep no goalies and draft some good backups from better teams?

    My plan is to keep the 6 save bets + 3 of RNH, Fiala, Mantha and Karlsson an wait with my last decision until I have more information about the available goalies in the draft. But who of the 4 should be dropped in favor of Jarry?

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    in keep 12 you should probably keep 2 goalies but with yoru situation i think you keep only one. So here are my last 6:

    Jarry
    Fiala
    Karlsson
    RNH
    Trocheck
    Mantha
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    But it’s a keep 10...otherwise I wouldn’t have a problem in keeping Jarry 🤪

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    So from what I can see, you need four more keepers.

    RNH is an easy one. Fiala and Mantha would be my other choices in your keep three more options. I'd probably keep Jarry as your fourth keeper no matter who else is available for goalies.
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    crap its 12 teams keep 10

    im stil keeping Jarry as he is a man in pit now and u going to struggle with goalies if you dont keep him. Some teams will keep 2 im sure.

    Jarry
    Fiala
    RNH
    Karlsson

    those would be my 4.
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    LW: Ehlers, Landeskog, Meier, Debrusk, Foegele, Lee
    RW: Pastrnak, Marner, Palmieri, Terry, D. Brown, Bailey, Granlund
    D: Krug, Josi, Ekholm, Faulk, Muzzin, Karlsson, Cernak,
    G: Hellebuyck, Biship, M Jones

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    I agree with the others that it comes down to Mantha or Karlsson. Personally I think Karlsson has a better season coming up and thus more trade value than Mantha, but he's definitely the riskier play.
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    Both Karlsson and Mantha have a level of risk, in this case give me the one that did meet the expectations in the past: Karlsson

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    I definitely think Karlsson deserves another chance here. I agree with the rest of your choices.
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    LW - Draisaitl, Fiala, Meier
    RW - ​​Marner, Barzal, Zuccarello
    D - Dahlin, Morrissey, Dunn, Matheson
    G - Skinner
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    G - Vasilevskiy, Markstrom
    B - Joseph, Schenn, Nyqvist, Roslovic, Duclair, S. Jones, Korpisalo, Quick, Rittich
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    Mantha
    Fiala
    Karlsson
    Jarry

    Tough to cut RNH because he's on the top PP with McDavid and Draisaitl as you mentioned, but he doesn't bring much outside of points and PPP (although his blks are pretty high for a forward).

    I think Fiala will have an elite shot rate this year (3+ SOG/G), with higher long term upside than RNH.

    Mantha contributes in just about every category, while I'd give Karlsson another chance, and protecting at least one goalie is likely a must--therefore keep Jarry.
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    Default Re: Help with keepers

    Thanks a lot for your opinions. Seems like keeping Jarry is the consensus...

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