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    I am considering marketing Blackwood & have a couple of trade thoughts.

    1. Blackwood for Dach. - owner really needs a goalie for the future. He owns Allen, Montembault, Kahkonen & Hofer.

    2. Blackwood for Zegras & Caufield - Owner owns Jarry and Gustaffson (Ottawa)

    I own Samsonov & Shesterkin plus I can add a UFA goalie for depth this year with one of my higher draft picks.

    Are these proposals fair value in a dynasty keeper league points only?

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    You dress 1G a week in a 14 team league and you can get Zegras AND Caufield? Jump on that
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    Honestly, I'd probably take the first or the second offer but the second one gives you a tad more so go for that one.
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    If you think you can get Zegras/Caufield - you should be asking for more than just Dach with option 1.
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    I am not sure if I could actually get both Zegras & Caufield, just wanted to get an idea if those proposals are reasonable? Am I overvaluing, undervaluing or just right?
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    If you think you can get Zegras/Caufield - you should be asking for more than just Dach with option 1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NewJersyFan View Post
    I am not sure if I could actually get both Zegras & Caufield, just wanted to get an idea if those proposals are reasonable? Am I overvaluing, undervaluing or just right?
    it depends on - value of G's in your league & the desperation level of teams you're poking to obtain a G.

    Sometimes a GM doesn't care about his G's and could be eyeing the same waiver pick up you are. Others have this unflinching need to secure and over-secure that position

    Best bet might be to put Blackwood on the block publicly with what you're looking to get in return. A 3rd team might come out and surprise you.
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    I would make any of those moves. Blackwood is a back-up goalie. I would guess that the main reason Crawford signed with the Devils is because they told him he would be the #1 goalie.

    I prefer Zegras over Dach so if you can get Zegras and Caufield that would be a great move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckcouples View Post
    I would make any of those moves. Blackwood is a back-up goalie. I would guess that the main reason Crawford signed with the Devils is because they told him he would be the #1 goalie.

    I prefer Zegras over Dach so if you can get Zegras and Caufield that would be a great move.

    I disagree with the claim that Blackwood is a back-up goalie. Worst case is he is in a 50/50 time share with Crawford this year. Blackwood is a rising star and solidly entrenched as New Jersey`s starting goalie of the future. Crawford was brought in to mentor Blackwood for a couple of years as they want to be patient with his development. Crawford is clearly the back-up goalie for New Jersey, not Blackwood. That`s how I see it anyhow. Recognize others may see it differently.

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    Thanks for all the feedback, will ponder and I may wait to see how are draft goes before I do anything.
    Quote Originally Posted by lucafen4 View Post
    it depends on - value of G's in your league & the desperation level of teams you're poking to obtain a G.

    Sometimes a GM doesn't care about his G's and could be eyeing the same waiver pick up you are. Others have this unflinching need to secure and over-secure that position

    Best bet might be to put Blackwood on the block publicly with what you're looking to get in return. A 3rd team might come out and surprise you.
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    Iím always shocked by the disparity in terms of value in leagues with similar setups. I mean, we also start only one keeper each week, and I would never land Zegras nor Dach for my Blackwood. GMs in our league tend to be greedy when it comes to exciting young prospects!
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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckcouples View Post
    I would make any of those moves. Blackwood is a back-up goalie. I would guess that the main reason Crawford signed with the Devils is because they told him he would be the #1 goalie.

    I prefer Zegras over Dach so if you can get Zegras and Caufield that would be a great move.
    Think you’re drastically off on the back up goalie claim. Crawford is as threatening to grab the #1 in NJ as Henrik is in Washington. They needed a back up as as Schneider can’t cut it anymore and Crawford got dumped by his own team. Should be a good duo.
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    Unless I had a boatload of high end forward prospects and a real need of goalies, I wouldn't move any of those players for Blackwood.

    That being said, you know your league better than I do, and if that's the market for goalies go for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by havanablast21 View Post
    Think you’re drastically off on the back up goalie claim. Crawford is as threatening to grab the #1 in NJ as Henrik is in Washington. They needed a back up as as Schneider can’t cut it anymore and Crawford got dumped by his own team. Should be a good duo.
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    If you can get one of those top prospects or better yet the 2 do it. You would probably have to add a pick at least to that Zegras deal
    I think it's worth proposing if the guy wants a goalie. No idea why he would do it but you don't know until you try.

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    Either of those deals would suffice. Dach or Zegras/Caufield would be a solid haul for Blackwood.

    I will mention though--seeing as others on this thread have talked about Blackwood's role--I see him and Crawford in a 1A/1B split for now, and don't really think either goalie should be considered the back-up.

    Blackwood is still NJ's goalie of the future, and the Crawford addition is likely to keep the pressure/load off of him for the next couple of seasons (he's still only 23 after all--especially young for a goalie).
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