Dahlin for me quite easily.
Hey, I was just wondering which defenseman you’d rather own long term? Multi Cat, Points only I think both are largely point centred defensemen. Just wondering what the community felt about this topic!
12 team deep keeper league, 17 main roster players, 5 prospect players, max 2 goalie keepers for the main roster. point breakdown goes as follows:
Skaters:
G is 4 points, 5.2 points for D goals. A is 2.5 points, 3.25 points for defense. 0.07 per FOW, 0.2 points for blocks, hits, and SOG 0.5 points for PIMS and +/-, 3 for SHG, 1.5 for SHA.
Goalies:
GS is 1.5 points, -1 for GA, 0.2 for SV, 4 for SHO, and 3 for W.
Team:
https://www.fantrax.com/fantasy/leag...gi/team/roster
Dahlin for me quite easily.
In a vacuum, Dahlin. That said, for multi-cat I don't think they're that far apart, Heiskanen is a shot machine, currently the better goal scorer... if/when he takes over PP1 for good from Klingberg, he could be just as good. And he's probs gonna be easier to acquire than Dahlin.
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Dynasty, 32 team cap league (1:1 NHL Cap/Floor), H2H weekly, points (G: 1 / A: 1 / Blks: 0.1 / HTS: 0.1 / SOG: 0.1 / W: 1 / SO: 1 / SV: 0.05)
Start 12 F, 6 D, 1 G, 4 Bench, 27 Minors/Prospects
Roster
Another vote for Dahlin.
10 Team, Points Only, Cash League
25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt
Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink
G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger
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Definitely Dahlin for me. Heiskanen still has to compete with Klingberg for playing time (especially pp time) in the near term. Buffalo is Dahlin's show to run, and I think we will see that this year. I'm also not convinced that Heiskanen's playoff scoring is indicative of his future regular season production. I think Heiskanen is a stud, but he might be one of those players, like Pietrangelo, whose real life value exceeds his fantasy value.
12 Teams, 23 Players (max 3 goalies), H2H, Keep 15 (max 2 goalies)
2C, 2RW, 2LW, 2F, 1U, 4D, 2G, 8 Bench, 2 IR+
G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, HIT, BLK, W, SV, SV%, SHO
Keepers:
C - Matthews, Eichel, Hughes (LW), Pettersson
LW - Kaprizov, Svechnikov (RW), Guentzel, Fiala, Keller (RW)
RW - Marner, Meier (LW), Laine(C/LW), Jarvis (C)
D - Dahlin, Sergachev, Theodore, Klingberg, Werenski, Peeke, Cernak
G - Shesterkin, Sorokin, Merzlikins
IR - Pacioretty, Ristolainen
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It going to over complicate it. Dahlin > Heiskanen
I see that Dahlin is the clear winner here, would it be a question still if Heiskanen can take control of that PP1?
It's too soon for me to tell. I prefer Dahlin's situation, but Heiskanen may make it too close to call if he takes over PP1 this year.
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Still early in the game for both of these players. I’ve seen a lot more “generational” talk about Dahlin. They’ve both been in the 150-200 shots/4-6 shooting % during the two regular seasons they’ve played. Heiskanen shot just over 10% in these playoffs, where some of the hype is coming from. I don’t think he’s going to be a career 10% shooter. Again, early to tell. I think Dahlin is the better bet for a larger upside.
12 team Yahoo Roto keeper (keep 3)
9 F, 6 D; roster 3 G max
G,A,PPP,SOG,BLKS,HITS - W,SO,SV%,Saves
F: B Tkachuk, Stutzle, Eriksson Ek, Necas, Konecny, Cooley, Boldy, Lehkonen, Tippett
D: Dahlin, Seider, Matheson, Durzi, Addison, Mintyukov
G: Hill, Husso
IR:
Bench: L Hughes, Merzlikins, Terry, Tuch
Thanks for all of the comments so far guys! I think personally the only way Heiskanen can challenge Dahlin fantasy wise is if he can take control of PP1 over Klingberg which is unlikely I believe right now.
12 team deep keeper league, 17 main roster players, 5 prospect players, max 2 goalie keepers for the main roster. point breakdown goes as follows:
Skaters:
G is 4 points, 5.2 points for D goals. A is 2.5 points, 3.25 points for defense. 0.07 per FOW, 0.2 points for blocks, hits, and SOG 0.5 points for PIMS and +/-, 3 for SHG, 1.5 for SHA.
Goalies:
GS is 1.5 points, -1 for GA, 0.2 for SV, 4 for SHO, and 3 for W.
Team:
https://www.fantrax.com/fantasy/leag...gi/team/roster
Heiskanen for me. If multi cat.
I think heiskanen will be a stud and provide more BLKs and a little more HITS than Dahlin. He’s a do it all defender, which would put him in all situations, including PK and all, where he will blk and hit more. Dahlin i think may be used more in offensive situations
Dahlin slightly better option , even if I feel Klingberg could be traded soon and Heiskanen would be undisputed #1 in Dallas .
As long as Klingberg is still there , gap widens slightly for Dahlin .
Disclosure : I own both so no bias
17th season keeper league with salary cap,16 teams ,max 38 players per team,UFA/RFA system,contracts.
Cats:fwd(1pt=1pt)top 6 count -Bratt/Hischier/Kakko/Hintz/Meier/W.Johnston/Mercer/Lafrénière/Perfetti/Zibanejad//Mercer/Holtz/Panarin/Kreider/
D(G=2,A=1.5)top 4 count- A.Fox/Heiskanen/K.Miller/Hutson
Goalies(save%,W,SO)top 2 count-Shesterkin/Oettinger
plus 4 other cats: top powerfwd(Trocheck)
setupman(J.Hughes),sniper(J.Robertson)rookie(M.Bou rque/G.Perreault/Stankoven)
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dahlin by far imo.
10 team Full Keeper Roto League
4C-4LW-4RW-6D-2G-5bench-unlimited farm.
C= eichel,horvat,malkin,kuznetsov
LW= forsberg,kreider,lee,b.tkchuch,hertle,granlund
RW= reinhart,radulov,hoffman,laine,hayes
D= doughty,ghostebehere,karlsson,jones,klefbom,dahlin ,skjei
G= price,murray,grubauer,georgiev,ullmark,samsonov
under250gp=nichushkin,tuch,mathesson,marino,pujuja rvi,hosang,terry,andersson,j.hughes,patrik,crouse, zadina,podkolzin,k.miller,nedeljkovic,kravtsov,hay ton
--G,A,P,PPP,SHP,GWG,PIMS,+/-,SOG,hits,FOW,blks-Wins,GAA,SV%,saves,SO
12 Teams Keeper, Weekly H2H, Daily Starts (3C, 3LW, 3RW, 6D, 2G)
Skaters: G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG, FW, HIT
Goalies: GS, W, L, GAA, SA, SV, SV%, SHO
C - Tavares, Scheifle, Trocheck, Granlund
LW - BTkachuk, Stamkos, Kurashev, Mittelstadt
RW - MTkachuk, Miller, Pavelski, Tolvanen, Zetterlund
D - Dahlin, Josi, Hamilton, Fox, Nurse, Montour, Manson
G - Sorokin, Saros, Ullmark
FARM:
RW - Michkov
LW - Voronkov
C - Foerster
D - Hutson, Nikishin
G - Schmid, Daws, Commesso, Portillo, Prosvetov
Points only its Dahlin, in multi cat i think it maybe much closer. Probably still pick Dahlin tho.
14 Teams H2H Dynasty, 28 roster spots (8 bench), 15 minors under 100
Weekly Matchups - Daily Lineups
Skaters: G/A/Pt/PIM/SoG/STP/H+B/ToI/Corsi
Goalies: W/GAA/SVs/SV%/SHO
C: Eichel, Kadri, Mcdavid, Sodeberg, Schenn
LW: Ehlers, Landeskog, Meier, Debrusk, Foegele, Lee
RW: Pastrnak, Marner, Palmieri, Terry, D. Brown, Bailey, Granlund
D: Krug, Josi, Ekholm, Faulk, Muzzin, Karlsson, Cernak,
G: Hellebuyck, Biship, M Jones