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    Hey, I was just wondering which defenseman you’d rather own long term? Multi Cat, Points only I think both are largely point centred defensemen. Just wondering what the community felt about this topic!
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    Default Re: Heiskanen or Dahlin?

    Dahlin for me quite easily.

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    Default Re: Heiskanen or Dahlin?

    In a vacuum, Dahlin. That said, for multi-cat I don't think they're that far apart, Heiskanen is a shot machine, currently the better goal scorer... if/when he takes over PP1 for good from Klingberg, he could be just as good. And he's probs gonna be easier to acquire than Dahlin.
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    Another vote for Dahlin.
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    Definitely Dahlin for me. Heiskanen still has to compete with Klingberg for playing time (especially pp time) in the near term. Buffalo is Dahlin's show to run, and I think we will see that this year. I'm also not convinced that Heiskanen's playoff scoring is indicative of his future regular season production. I think Heiskanen is a stud, but he might be one of those players, like Pietrangelo, whose real life value exceeds his fantasy value.
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    It going to over complicate it. Dahlin > Heiskanen

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    I see that Dahlin is the clear winner here, would it be a question still if Heiskanen can take control of that PP1?

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    It's too soon for me to tell. I prefer Dahlin's situation, but Heiskanen may make it too close to call if he takes over PP1 this year.
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    Still early in the game for both of these players. I’ve seen a lot more “generational” talk about Dahlin. They’ve both been in the 150-200 shots/4-6 shooting % during the two regular seasons they’ve played. Heiskanen shot just over 10% in these playoffs, where some of the hype is coming from. I don’t think he’s going to be a career 10% shooter. Again, early to tell. I think Dahlin is the better bet for a larger upside.
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    Thanks for all of the comments so far guys! I think personally the only way Heiskanen can challenge Dahlin fantasy wise is if he can take control of PP1 over Klingberg which is unlikely I believe right now.
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    G is 4 points, 5.2 points for D goals. A is 2.5 points, 3.25 points for defense. 0.07 per FOW, 0.2 points for blocks, hits, and SOG 0.5 points for PIMS and +/-, 3 for SHG, 1.5 for SHA.
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    Heiskanen for me. If multi cat.

    I think heiskanen will be a stud and provide more BLKs and a little more HITS than Dahlin. He’s a do it all defender, which would put him in all situations, including PK and all, where he will blk and hit more. Dahlin i think may be used more in offensive situations

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    Dahlin slightly better option , even if I feel Klingberg could be traded soon and Heiskanen would be undisputed #1 in Dallas .

    As long as Klingberg is still there , gap widens slightly for Dahlin .

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    dahlin by far imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinsrangers View Post
    dahlin by far imo.
    I agree. Heiskanen is outstanding but Dahlin is special.
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    Points only its Dahlin, in multi cat i think it maybe much closer. Probably still pick Dahlin tho.
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