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    hey all,

    looking for some opinions on some discussions I've been having with a GM. Trying to remove Homer glasses here as well.

    OGM Originally came with an offer of Marner for Rantanen/Kapanen.

    And we are now at this:

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    Marner/Dadanov

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    Rantanen/Kapanen/Labanc or Murray

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    and go....
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    not sure what the reason is for this trade...i think Marner is best player in this deal...as good as Rantanen is i think he is just about maxed..i think Marner has another gear. Both are RW, you not addressing anything ...you also moving 3rd best player in the deal that maybe a go to option on PP1.
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    I love the upside of Marner and feel he is the creator on his line. Rantanen while very good does seem to benefit by being Mackinnon's side kick. you are giving up some future upside by requesting Dadonov... I think I like his original offer better? I say get Marner while you can
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    oh i did read it wrong, you are getting Marner? if you are then yes, do this deal now and run
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belexus75 View Post
    not sure what the reason is for this trade...i think Marner is best player in this deal...as good as Rantanen is i think he is just about maxed..i think Marner has another gear. Both are RW, you not addressing anything ...you also moving 3rd best player in the deal that maybe a go to option on PP1.
    I don't really have a lot of holes. super young team. I'm not sure I agree on 3rd best player in a points only pool though. You have Kappy > Dadanov for the next 2-3 years?

    My viewpoint was upgrade Rant with Marner and consolidate two 2nd liners 50-60pt guys for a 1st liner 60+pts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucafen4 View Post
    I don't really have a lot of holes. super young team. I'm not sure I agree on 3rd best player in a points only pool though. You have Kappy > Dadanov for the next 2-3 years?

    My viewpoint was upgrade Rant with Marner and consolidate two 2nd liners 50-60pt guys for a 1st liner 60+pts.
    as i said in my second post, i thought you giving up marner's side. Dadanov is the 3rd best player imo.

    i would definitely go for this deal
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    C: Eichel, Kadri, Mcdavid, Sodeberg, Schenn
    LW: Ehlers, Landeskog, Meier, Debrusk, Foegele, Lee
    RW: Pastrnak, Marner, Palmieri, Terry, D. Brown, Bailey, Granlund
    D: Krug, Josi, Ekholm, Faulk, Muzzin, Karlsson, Cernak,
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    This feels like a lateral move to me overall. You're not improving greatly as I think Rantanen and marner will be very similar and dadonov in Ottawa doesnt inspire a whole lot of confidence. I could easily see kapanen or labanc breaking out to match his totals. I'd hold personally.

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    I like getting Marner/Dadonov, and I'd probably give Murray instead of the forwards. Ottawa isn't good, and I'm not sure he can keep that job.
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    I agree with most here. I would take Marner/Dadonov and would give up Murray instead of Labanc. Not excited about what's to come for Murray at all.

    I like Marner over Rantanen by a slight margin.

    I like Dadonov over Kapanen by a bit, but Kapanen could click in PIT and change that, so there's some risk there.

    Happy to be rid of Murray.

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    The rest of my net is Jarry, DeSmith(minors), Varlamov, Sorokin (minors), Gibson & Hogberg (minors).

    he has Holtby, Ullmark & Kuemper.

    I actually think Murray is the better option vs. Labanc - for him.

    I'm trying to offload a G. with 6 gp limit per week, I really don't need this many, nor do I really ever want this many in any format.

    The 3-2 gives me space to bring Dach, Mikheyev up.
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    I agree with others above that you send Rants and Murray.

    Fan of Labanc and believe he gets back into the 60's for points.

    Kapanen could have a really good year if he can develop good chemistry with either Malkin or Crosby.

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    Thanks everyone for the feedback. OGM keeps trying to add extra's into the deal.

    Not a fan of being nickeled and dimed.

    Think I'm going to pull back on this one.

    Much as I like to have Marner in this set up - having a bench with Labanc & Kapanen in the mix is a huge plus.
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    I usually just focus on the main pieces and to me, marner is the better play. The others are replaceable but when you can upgrade and get a better keeper for a small side piece, I usually do it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucafen4 View Post
    The rest of my net is Jarry, DeSmith(minors), Varlamov, Sorokin (minors), Gibson & Hogberg (minors).

    he has Holtby, Ullmark & Kuemper.

    I actually think Murray is the better option vs. Labanc - for him.

    I'm trying to offload a G. with 6 gp limit per week, I really don't need this many, nor do I really ever want this many in any format.

    The 3-2 gives me space to bring Dach, Mikheyev up.
    Exactly what you said here Luc. I’m taking Marner over Rantanen (close but I prefer Mitchy). Dadonov is good and I’m not as hard on Ottawa as others. I could see them actually surprising with these latest additions and the kids another year older. So I’m keeping Murray. Ya never know. But Lebanc... you know what you’re giving up. And Kappy, I don’t believe he thrives on the top 2 lines. Could see him relegated to 3rd line duty as he was In T.O. Get’r done!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucafen4 View Post
    Thanks everyone for the feedback. OGM keeps trying to add extra's into the deal.

    Not a fan of being nickeled and dimed.

    Think I'm going to pull back on this one.

    Much as I like to have Marner in this set up - having a bench with Labanc & Kapanen in the mix is a huge plus.
    Just saw this post. Yeah... they’re really close IMO and I just prefer Marner. You Should’t have to add more than you indicated. Some Ave fans would likely ask for more to move Rantanen for Marner. Play hard to get. He clearly wants Rant and is playing on your Leafs homer bias.

    He’ll likely give in. play hard to get on this one.

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