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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    Can you blame them? Sounds like something both parties would do if given the opportunity.
    I dont blame them at all.. heck im voting for it...

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    Watching the Presidential Debate last night I could not help but wish that the Democrats had someone with the speaking skills of Mr. Obama on stage this time around.
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    Watching the Presidential Debate last night I could not help but wish that the Democrats had someone with the speaking skills of Mr. Obama on stage this time around.
    I thought Biden was much better this time around than the previous debate. It's well known of Biden's speech impediment and stuttering issues but all in all, I saw a much better Biden last night compared to the first debate.
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    ^^ not that Biden was bad, just that he is not a stunning public speaker. Obama was such an impressive speaker and debater. I would have liked to see someone with those skills debating Trump in that format last night. I think the results would have been spectacular.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    ^^ not that Biden was bad, just that he is not a stunning public speaker. Obama was such an impressive speaker and debater. I would have liked to see someone with those skills debating Trump in that format last night. I think the results would have been spectacular.
    I see where you're going. Yes, I agree with you there.
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    I think Trump had a better net performance gain than Biden did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GinFizz View Post
    I think Trump had a better net performance gain than Biden did.
    How so?

    There was six major topics. Which ones do you feel Trump improved his standing on? They were Fighting Covid, Race in America, National Security, Climate Change, Leadership and finally, American Families.
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    He was unhinged and frothing at the mouth at the first one, this time much more composed.. Both Biden and Trump had the same message (basically) so we didnt learn anything new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GinFizz View Post
    He was unhinged and frothing at the mouth at the first one, this time much more composed.. Both Biden and Trump had the same message (basically) so we didnt learn anything new.
    Sure he was more composed, but to me, both showed better composure up there. It helps when they actually let the others talk. "Let" being the key word there, because it wasnt like they had a choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GinFizz View Post
    I think Trump had a better net performance gain than Biden did.
    Both betting markets and exit polls disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    Sure he was more composed, but to me, both showed better composure up there. It helps when they actually let the others talk. "Let" being the key word there, because it wasnt like they had a choice.
    agreed. they both were more composed but again IMO, Trump's composure net gain was more significant than Bidens. Im not saying Trump won the debate, nor do i have exit poll or betting data to prove it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GinFizz View Post
    Of course a CNN poll would say that. I suppose the FOX poll disagrees. I would agree Biden "won" (whatever that even means), but a CNN poll is hardly evidence of anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forumname View Post
    Of course a CNN poll would say that. I suppose the FOX poll disagrees. I would agree Biden "won" (whatever that even means), but a CNN poll is hardly evidence of anything.
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    At any rate, Biden didn't commit any major gaffes. Trump needed a home run or a complete melt down by Biden to give him a chance in November. Unfortunately for Trump Biden did just fine and I think the debate was about a 50-50 split. Nothing new learned. No appreciable number of voters gained or lost by either side.

    Trump was down 3.8 points to Hillary on election day on an aggregate average of national polls in 2016. Right now Biden is up 9.8 points in aggregate polls nationwide.

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