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    In a previous post I got some great advice about some of my final drops. The thread ended with a comment that anyone I drop will likely be picked up in the draft, and if I could do a 2 for 1 deal that would be wisest.

    I started asking other GMs what roster holes they were trying to fill. One GM said he was looking for younger scoring but no one too young. Only players off limits were Makar, Quinn, and Vasi. In previous trades, I know this fella likes consistency (he is perpetually top 3) and will take an older player over a younger one every time.

    So I offered Lindholm and Hischier for Pietrangelo. He likes Line 1 and PP1 players, both Lindholm and Hischier satisfy what he's looking for.

    Is this an overpay? Would you rather see a player dropped or overpay?

    If not an overpay, how would you sweeten this?

    Or is this spot on?
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    I don't think that's an overpay. Seems about right.

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    Which Lindholm? Hampus or Elias?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    Which Lindholm? Hampus or Elias?
    this...

    if its Hampus its good deal, if its Elias i prefer both forwards.
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    Elias Lindholm + Nico Hischier is a big overpay for Pietrangelo.
    Hampus Lindholm + Nico Hischier is a big underpay for Pietrangelo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    Which Lindholm? Hampus or Elias?
    Yes, I realize my signature doesn't state that it is Elias Lindholm.

    The offer would be E Lindholm and N Hischier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belexus75 View Post
    this...

    if its Hampus its good deal, if its Elias i prefer both forwards.
    I like both forwards too! Unfortunately, I have to drop a forward or do a 2for1 trade. The E Lindholm/N Hischier for Piertrangelo is the deal being reviewed by the Pietr. owner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengwin7 View Post
    Elias Lindholm + Nico Hischier is a big overpay for Pietrangelo.
    Hampus Lindholm + Nico Hischier is a big underpay for Pietrangelo.
    I wondered about overpay and if I should have included a pick, seeing as I don't need a second player in return. Need to do a 2for1 or let one of my F go for nothing as a drop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JSquared View Post
    I wondered about overpay and if I should have included a pick, seeing as I don't need a second player in return. Need to do a 2for1 or let one of my F go for nothing as a drop.
    Ideally you ask for a token pick with a 2 for 1. But everyone will know you are in a squeeze and will use that leverage against you. If you are going to have to drop one of these guys for nothing, it's equivalent to trading one of these players straight up for AP.

    You could also look around at other top D players; if you are offering Lindholm and Hischier I think you could get lots of nibbles on that offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by als_revenge View Post
    Ideally you ask for a token pick with a 2 for 1. But everyone will know you are in a squeeze and will use that leverage against you. If you are going to have to drop one of these guys for nothing, it's equivalent to trading one of these players straight up for AP.

    You could also look around at other top D players; if you are offering Lindholm and Hischier I think you could get lots of nibbles on that offer.
    I appreciate the perspective that this deal is worth viewing as a straight up 1for1 trade considering I have to drop one anyway. There is no way I get AP in a 1for1 with either of those players.

    Should this GM agree, I feel like it's a pretty big win. Otherwise, I lose one of these F for nothing.
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    Id consider dropping Boeser over Lindholm/Hischier
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    how about trying to trade Boser and Hischier for AP? its still overpay but if you need to drop one forward at least keep best one and make this trade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avs31 View Post
    Id consider dropping Boeser over Lindholm/Hischier
    That's an interesting point. Without Toffoli coming back or a player like him, I see Boeser having more exposure to the Top Line and PP1. When he plays with Pettersson and Miller he lights it up. If he is put on Line 2, then yes I'd move him and keep Lindholm/Hischier.

    Appreciate you bringing Boeser into the mix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belexus75 View Post
    how about trying to trade Boser and Hischier for AP? its still overpay but if you need to drop one forward at least keep best one and make this trade.
    Worth exploring with the other GM. Maybe he values Boeser different and takes the offer.
    We'll see as we continue to negotiate and appreciate the input.
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