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    I picked up Shesterkin in the 1st round am I crazy to take another goalie in the 2nd rnd?,,, I feel like tenders will be a premium in a 32 team start 2 G's Dynasty

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    Carter Hart
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    Igor Shesterkin
    Ilya Samsonov
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    LW: J.Huberdeau, D.Heinen, A.Kerfoot
    RW: V.Taresenko. J.Virtanen, V.Hinostraza
    D: T.Krug, T.Barrie. M.Matheson, N.Zaitsev
    SKT: C.Makar
    G: B.Bishop, A.Raanta
    B: C.Fischer, A.Watson, T.Pitlick, A.Martinez
    Farm: B.Hayton, J.Kyrou, E.Tolvanen, K.Vesalainen, J.Gauthier, I.Konovalov, M.Berdin

    2021 picks: 1'st, 1'st

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    Inaugural draft? If so, where are you picking in the snake? I'm also pretty green when it comes to roto, but that seems like a pretty high goalie stat ratio...
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    32 teams starting 2 goalies?

    Yes goalies will be very, very important. And the league designers did a very, very poor job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevegamer View Post
    32 teams starting 2 goalies?

    Yes goalies will be very, very important. And the league designers did a very, very poor job.
    That's what I was thinking... 2 players out of 19 having 40%+ of the categories? So yeah, go for goalies :/ Verdict: not crazy :P
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    Thanks guys , my thoughts exactly.. who thinking would be next goalie pick?
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    G: B.Bishop, A.Raanta
    B: C.Fischer, A.Watson, T.Pitlick, A.Martinez
    Farm: B.Hayton, J.Kyrou, E.Tolvanen, K.Vesalainen, J.Gauthier, I.Konovalov, M.Berdin

    2021 picks: 1'st, 1'st

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    Sorokin tempting but I think you punt the year a bit drafting him that high.

    Im going to say Binnington but strongly suggest you lock down Husso as well later in the draft.

    If and when Arizona trades Raanta I think Kuemper becomes a fantastic (and safe) 30 win goalie with league best rate stats.

    Talbot in Minny does not look terrible these days either.
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    I'd consider Jarry. His salary and age will make him easy to move as well if you ever want to use him to acquire a different asset.

    There are so many tandems, it feels like you could grab a 30-40 start goalie in later rounds.
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    Sorokin, Binnington, Demko, Gibson, Jarry
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    I like the Gibson put very much. Your sig does not say what the goalie stat cats are - that would useful to know if you want good advice on goalies.
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    That is a crazy setup for a league, goalies should be flying off the shelves.

    In a cap league, I'd go Binnington, Jarry, Sorokin.

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    binnington for me , id continue to just draft goalies, then trade them , that setup is nuts, and to be honest that pool will not last very long , just not enough goaltenders available

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    Gibson or Sorokin or Demko would be my choices.

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    I would go Sorokin or Demko. Locking down the 2 stud Russians would be very tempting to me.

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    I find points-based leagues tend to drive the value of a goaltender down, unless there's something about the scoring setup that is out of whack and gives extreme value to goalies. I also worry about over-investing in goaltending when most good goaltenders only get a 3-4-year run of dominance, and most teams are tilting towards tandems. Feels like that undercuts goalie value further. Obviously in a league with this many teams and only so many goalies, there will be a real advantage to having a couple of starters. I'd also think that with such large farm teams you could dedicate 25 slots to just taking flyers on goalies.

    All told, these feels a bit poorly thought out in terms of league construction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevegamer View Post
    32 teams starting 2 goalies?

    Yes goalies will be very, very important. And the league designers did a very, very poor job.
    This right here. Not crazy to snap up goalies quick in a league of over 30 teams and start 2., maybe a little Crazy to start a league with over 30 teams and start 2 goalies. I fear for the leagues future. And it’s only round 2 of the inaug draft.
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