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    Default Couture for Larsson and Tatar - off season move

    Hey everyone,

    Offered this off season move on the second team in my sig. It's a keep 15 league with 3 rounds in the draft. I was offered Larsson and Tatar for couture. I've got a log jam at C and a need for winger and a D that puts up the banger cats. Would you do it?
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    2C, 2RW, 2LW, 4D, 2 Utility, 2G, 4 bench, 1IR+
    F - Matthews, Marner, McDavid, Debrincat, Thomas, Jeannot, Vilardi, Zegras, Guentzel, Zibanejad
    D - Dahlin, Bouchard, Lauzon, Durzi,. Chychrun
    G - Samsonov, Gustavsson, Askarov

    16 team head to head, 15 keepers
    G, A, PPP, SOG, Hit, Block, W, GAA, SV, SV%
    2C, 2LW, 2RW, 1F, 4D, 1 Utility, 2G
    F - McDavid, Tavares, Kucherov, Meier, Duchene, Foerster P. Kane, Pastrnak, R. Smith, Forsberg, Poitras, W. Johnston

    D - Josi, Reilly, Faber, Matheson, Nemec,
    G - Vasilevskiy, Merzlikins, Vladar, Cossa


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    Default Re: Couture for Larsson and Tatar - off season move

    This is an easy accept for me. I'd have Tatar rated above Couture as is, so getting Larsson back is a nice bonus.
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    Default Re: Couture for Larsson and Tatar - off season move

    Quote Originally Posted by Stalinism View Post
    Hey everyone,

    Offered this off season move on the second team in my sig. It's a keep 15 league with 3 rounds in the draft. I was offered Larsson and Tatar for couture. I've got a log jam at C and a need for winger and a D that puts up the banger cats. Would you do it?
    but it just says Forwards not positions?
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    Default Re: Couture for Larsson and Tatar - off season move

    Quote Originally Posted by 5hole View Post
    but it just says Forwards not positions?
    Positions are listed above the players. I've basically got Couture, Kadri, Tavares, McDavid, Karlsson and Hintz who occupy center. I'm thin on the wings and need a 3rd D who's a blocks/hits guy
    14 team head to head, 7 keepers
    G, A, PPP, HITS, PIM, +/-, GWG, W, L, SO, SV%
    2C, 2RW, 2LW, 4D, 2 Utility, 2G, 4 bench, 1IR+
    F - Matthews, Marner, McDavid, Debrincat, Thomas, Jeannot, Vilardi, Zegras, Guentzel, Zibanejad
    D - Dahlin, Bouchard, Lauzon, Durzi,. Chychrun
    G - Samsonov, Gustavsson, Askarov

    16 team head to head, 15 keepers
    G, A, PPP, SOG, Hit, Block, W, GAA, SV, SV%
    2C, 2LW, 2RW, 1F, 4D, 1 Utility, 2G
    F - McDavid, Tavares, Kucherov, Meier, Duchene, Foerster P. Kane, Pastrnak, R. Smith, Forsberg, Poitras, W. Johnston

    D - Josi, Reilly, Faber, Matheson, Nemec,
    G - Vasilevskiy, Merzlikins, Vladar, Cossa


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    Default Re: Couture for Larsson and Tatar - off season move

    Given your positional logjam, I'd consider that, but note two things:

    1. Tatar doesn't have a team right now.
    2. Tatar is not going into the last year of a contract right now.



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    Quote Originally Posted by stevegamer View Post
    Given your positional logjam, I'd consider that, but note two things:

    1. Tatar doesn't have a team right now.
    2. Tatar is not going into the last year of a contract right now.
    What do you mean he doesn't have a team right now? In his contract year, one would expect him to light it up.

    It would leave me with:
    C - Tavares, Mcdavid, Karlsson, Kadri, Hintz
    LW - Svech, Hoffman, Tatar
    RW - Buch, Puljujarvi
    D - Pietro, OEL, Josi, Larsson
    G - Samsonov, Grubauer

    One of these skaters would end up having to go/be cut. What would you do with this?
    14 team head to head, 7 keepers
    G, A, PPP, HITS, PIM, +/-, GWG, W, L, SO, SV%
    2C, 2RW, 2LW, 4D, 2 Utility, 2G, 4 bench, 1IR+
    F - Matthews, Marner, McDavid, Debrincat, Thomas, Jeannot, Vilardi, Zegras, Guentzel, Zibanejad
    D - Dahlin, Bouchard, Lauzon, Durzi,. Chychrun
    G - Samsonov, Gustavsson, Askarov

    16 team head to head, 15 keepers
    G, A, PPP, SOG, Hit, Block, W, GAA, SV, SV%
    2C, 2LW, 2RW, 1F, 4D, 1 Utility, 2G
    F - McDavid, Tavares, Kucherov, Meier, Duchene, Foerster P. Kane, Pastrnak, R. Smith, Forsberg, Poitras, W. Johnston

    D - Josi, Reilly, Faber, Matheson, Nemec,
    G - Vasilevskiy, Merzlikins, Vladar, Cossa


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    Default Re: Couture for Larsson and Tatar - off season move

    I don't love it.

    Do you have to drop anyone else to make this work? Or we're past the keeper date and you can keep both no problem? If yes, I consider it if you need it, but still feel like you could do better. (Full disclosure, I don't love Tatar or Larsson for fantasy purposes).

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    Default Re: Couture for Larsson and Tatar - off season move

    I've got quite a while before keeper date is up. I can move players for pick upgrades right up until. Currently I hold a late first and two late seconds. I do want to jump up in the draft and grab a top prospect though

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    Default Re: Couture for Larsson and Tatar - off season move

    Quote Originally Posted by Stalinism View Post
    What do you mean he doesn't have a team right now? In his contract year, one would expect him to light it up.
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    Default Re: Couture for Larsson and Tatar - off season move

    Quote Originally Posted by Stalinism View Post
    I've got quite a while before keeper date is up. I can move players for pick upgrades right up until. Currently I hold a late first and two late seconds. I do want to jump up in the draft and grab a top prospect though
    Given the fact that this costs you a keeper spot, it's now Couture/drop vs Tatar/Larsson, and given the players on your roster, it's a hard no from me.

    If you had already set your keepers and this didn't cost you a keeper slot, I'd consider it, but not anymore.

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    Default Re: Couture for Larsson and Tatar - off season move

    It is a drop, or it's a deal a player for a draft upgrade/package with another for an upgrade elsewhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stalinism View Post
    It is a drop, or it's a deal a player for a draft upgrade/package with another for an upgrade elsewhere
    I find it's harder to make trades with the fringe players when everyone has to work on their 15. There are a lot of those fringe 15 guys available, and not a lot of people willing to give up assets for them as they are typically a minor upgrade at best. I would make sure you can find a trade first before banking on being able to move a fringe guy for picks.

    I don't think Larsson cracks your top 15 and is probably easily drafted, so it's hard to consider him part of the deal. In that case, it's Couture vs Tatar being even at best (I have Tatar lower).

    With those two points, this trade just doesn't make sense to me. Fine with moving Couture, I just think you can do better. Do Couture for Tatar + a draft pick, then use the draft pick to draft Larsson. You get to keep an extra guy that way.

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