Dobber Prospect Rankings help (for those that have bought it)

[JayJJeffery]

Hi all,

I'm not sure if this is in the right spot but I'm trying to decipher the Dobber Prospect Rankings and was hoping someone with a little more experience might be able to help me. I've bumped a lot of the tiers up because the basis they make the rankings on is a lot smaller than my league (28 minor spots as opposed to 8-12) 24 teams.
I'm trying to figure out how I should be ranking the minors.

Right now I've got
Blue Chip > 1st Few Rounds > Middle Rounds and that's no issue, all of those will go first for me.

But when I start getting towards the end I've got a few options
Final Round, Potential Star Draft Late and Too Soon (wait until next year).

I'm putting too soon at the bottom, as it's such a big league no doubt some of those will be worth picking up. But what should I do about the final round and potential star, how should I rank these? As an example the likes of Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen is a 'potential star, draft late' but Colin Delia is a final round. Previously I was putting Final Round first, because in another example it would be like Heponiemi (Final Round) or Ivan Morozov (Potential Star) and the obvious choice there is Hep.

Should I just mix those two categories up a little bit? go for who I think is the best potential/3YP?

Thanks in advance

[stevegamer]

It depends on your wants & needs. So yes, mix those categories together, and figure it out.

From your examples: if you want a guy who is very likely to be a NHL backup soon, Delia is your guy. If you want a guy with potentially bigger impact that is farther away, you go with Luukkonen.

I like using Elite Prospects to get a handle on how they done in minors, juniors, and overseas. While you often can't get direct comprables, sometimes you can look at how they've done in the same league in the same year, which helps a bit.

[JayJJeffery]

It depends on your wants & needs. So yes, mix those categories together, and figure it out.

From your examples: if you want a guy who is very likely to be a NHL backup soon, Delia is your guy. If you want a guy with potentially bigger impact that is farther away, you go with Luukkonen.

I like using Elite Prospects to get a handle on how they done in minors, juniors, and overseas. While you often can't get direct comprables, sometimes you can look at how they've done in the same league in the same year, which helps a bit.

Thanks as always, Steve, pretty much what I ended up going with.

What're your thoughts on Alex Nedeljkovic? I've got my next 2 back to back picks coming up and considering taking as I've got no goalies yet (apart from Nick Malik - still no inaugural)

Here are the few I'm considering
Alex Nylander
Tyler Madden
Alex Nedeljkovic
Alex Alexeyev
Jake Bean
Connor Timmins
Joe Veleno
Alex Barre-Boulet

[stevegamer]

Thanks as always, Steve, pretty much what I ended up going with.

What're your thoughts on Alex Nedeljkovic? I've got my next 2 back to back picks coming up and considering taking as I've got no goalies yet (apart from Nick Malik - still no inaugural)

Here are the few I'm considering
Alex Nylander
Tyler Madden
Alex Nedeljkovic
Alex Alexeyev
Jake Bean
Connor Timmins
Joe Veleno
Alex Barre-Boulet

I like him. I've actually seen him play, which is a rarity for a non-Flyers prospect. Did you get the list of available goalies fully sorted out?

[als_revenge]

Way back when, I used to download the spead sheet and then create custom rankings with the stats (i.e. assign a certain weight to upside, 3YP, and other stats). Boom, custom rankings.

[JayJJeffery]

I like him. I've actually seen him play, which is a rarity for a non-Flyers prospect. Did you get the list of available goalies fully sorted out?

Goalies worth noting (apologies for the colouring, it's how I've been sorting), this is actually how I have my goalies ranked right now.

Alex Nedeljkovic

Ukko-P Lukkonen

Danil Tarasov

Dustin Wolf

Connor Ingram

Dustin Wolf

Lukas Dostal

Ian Scott

Veini Vehvilainen

Justus Annunen

Adam Werner

Colin Delia

Pyotr Kochetkov

Mitchell Gibson

Olof Lindbom

Hugo Alnefelt

Isaiah Saville

Ivan Nalimov

Kirill Ustimenko

Josef Korenar

Tyler Wall

There are also these guys who have played an NHL game and I didn't mention above (either I haven't yet ranked them or I didn't think they were good enough)
Chris Driedger
Marcus Hogberg
Adin Hill
Sam Montembeault
Matiss Kivlenieks
Charlie Lindgren
Jonas Johansson
Anthony Stolarz
Antoine Bibeau
Giles Senn

And ALS - that's similar to how I've done it actually, some stuff I left out but pretty similar!

[stevegamer]

Dustin Wolf is listed twice.

Guys one the last list who could be backups next year:

Dreidger/Monetmbault - I'd bet one of them is Bob's backup.
Hill - maybe if Arizona moves a goalie.
Stolarz should be the backup in Anaheim. They have no cap space, and I think he's adequate as a backup. He once was hoped to be the Flyers next starter, but couldn't stay healthy and got passed by Hart.
Senn and Hogberg are the #3 guys in their systems right now - I'm calling Senn #3, assuming NJ signs somebody to backup.

Guys you seem to be missing, may be gone or not in this draft, no NHL games, but also not in 2020 draft:
Konovalov - EDM
Melnichuk - SJ

Full disclosure:
Konovalov, Melnichuk, Senn, Delia, Werner are currently on a roster of mine. Ustimenko and Stolarz have been at one time.

[JayJJeffery]

Dustin Wolf is listed twice.

Guys one the last list who could be backups next year:

Dreidger/Monetmbault - I'd bet one of them is Bob's backup.
Hill - maybe if Arizona moves a goalie.
Stolarz should be the backup in Anaheim. They have no cap space, and I think he's adequate as a backup. He once was hoped to be the Flyers next starter, but couldn't stay healthy and got passed by Hart.
Senn and Hogberg are the #3 guys in their systems right now - I'm calling Senn #3, assuming NJ signs somebody to backup.

Guys you seem to be missing, may be gone or not in this draft, no NHL games, but also not in 2020 draft:
Konovalov - EDM
Melnichuk - SJ

Full disclosure:
Konovalov, Melnichuk, Senn, Delia, Werner are currently on a roster of mine. Ustimenko and Stolarz have been at one time.

Thanks for the two other goalie options, I ended up taking Nedeljkovic and Tyler Madden, I felt that one of these like Adin Hill will still be available next round and I wanted to get another top prospect in.