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    Default Re: McKenzie: Stamkos trade this week "within realm of possibility"

    Sounds like a Tyler Johnson trade isn't too far off.

    https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/sta...72031388823560

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    Default Re: McKenzie: Stamkos trade this week "within realm of possibility"

    Not sure how you can have clickbait on twitter, where there is nothing to click.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rataylor22 View Post
    Not sure how you can have clickbait on twitter, where there is nothing to click.
    Gets you to tune in on Overdrive when they discuss this I guess?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eskimo Brother View Post
    I ended up going through my version of the TB cap crunch in this thread here (post #5): https://forums.dobbersports.com/show...a-Bay-Forwards

    I cam to the conclusion they needed to move out three forwards, but if it was Stamkos and Johnson they could likely make that work too.
    That was a good discussion. Perhaps they may have decided to move Johnson instead of Gourde given their respective playoff performances. if Stamkos and Johnson go, that may result in Gourde moving up to play with Cirelli and Killorn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shift Disturber View Post
    That was a good discussion. Perhaps they may have decided to move Johnson instead of Gourde given their respective playoff performances. if Stamkos and Johnson go, that may result in Gourde moving up to play with Cirelli and Killorn.
    Yeah I could definitely see them leaning that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    That's the sad reality of a cap league when it comes to building a winner. You are usually tearing it down after.
    I actually like this about the league. (Not sure if you were being critical of the league set up here or not.) I like the parity, and the skill that GMing takes as a result.

    Maybe I'm just still sour about the Nucks losing to the '94 Rangers with half the salary spent... or Detroit putting together HOF squads for much of the 90's (one year, they outspent everyone by 10 million! -- when the total spent was under 50 million). Or maybe I'm just looking at the Blue Jays trying to compete with the Yankees and BoSox for the last 15 years.

    And there have been teams that managed to stay great throughout--Hawks and Kings, along with perennial contenders like the Pens, Sharks for awhile, Preds for awhile, etc.
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    Default Re: McKenzie: Stamkos trade this week "within realm of possibility"

    Also an expansion draft to consider, and moving out NTC/NMC guys will make their protection slots more flexible.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by rataylor22 View Post
    Not sure how you can have clickbait on twitter, where there is nothing to click.
    Likes/retweets/replies, click click click!
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    Which doesn't obtain him anything......

    Engagement matters for sure. But not for someone on their last contract, with said contract already signed, already in semi-retirement. And with no link to TSN's website, doesn't drive traffic there either.

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    Well if he wasn't looking to obtain anything (whether it's personal or commercial gratification), then he wouldn't be on twitter still "breaking news", but ok.
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    It is in fact, still his job. If he was fully retired, than he would be fully retired.

    Doing his job, however, does not make his posts clickbait.

    Just like Friedman reporting the Domi/Anderson deal is not clickbait.

    They're just doing their jobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    I say Gourde to a lesser extent because in my mind, he's overpaid for a 3rd liner as it is. At least Johnson and Palat are top six guys on that team (and others I am sure too if they decide to waive).
    Gourde was much more influent during the cup run than Johnson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rato View Post
    Gourde was much more influent during the cup run than Johnson.
    Gourde looks great at times, but invisible at others. One could argue (perhaps fairly) that Gourde (like many other Lightning players) can't really do much if he isn't given top 6 minutes and top line PP time. That said, Gourde's contract was a bad signing by the Lightning. The guy is 28 years old, and has only played 3 NHL seasons. He managed to score 64 points in his first full season in the NHL, and got paid nicely because of it. It is shocking to me that he is signed for over $5 million a year for another 5 years based on ONE season. It isn't like Gourde was young at the time and had draft pedigree to suggest he had loads of untapped potential. I mean, even his AHL numbers were modest. In parts of 8 AHL seasons, he never scored over 60 pts.

    Gourde can be a nice complimentary player who can move up and down the line-up, but that contract is already looking like an over-payment and it will only look worse as Gourde ages. It'd be nice if the Lightning could deal him, but I suspect they are stuck with that contract.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rato View Post
    Gourde was much more influent during the cup run than Johnson.
    He also makes more money. I still think he's overpaid for a 3rd line guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    He also makes more money. I still think he's overpaid for a 3rd line guy.
    You´re quite right but my point is he's only a 3rd liner due to playing in a stacked team, as happened with J. T. Miller, i. e., it would not be a surprise for me if they'd rather have Gourde in the 2nd line instead of Johnson or Killorn.

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