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    Vasilevskiy G
    Kucherov RW
    Draisaitl C,LW
    Pastrnak RW
    Matthews C
    Gaudreau LW
    Binnington G

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    Schenn C
    Provorov D
    Chabot D
    Yamamoto LW,RW
    Olofsson LW, RW
    Nurse D
    Georgiev G
    Ristolainen D

    I think I have my bubble players in rank of how I'd rate them, which I guess means I'm picking Letang, Schenn and Provorov.

    Can definitely make some cases for Chabot, Yamamoto and Olofsson tho

    Don't think Nurse, Georgiev or Risto will make the cut but I've included just for the hell of it

    What you all think?
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    Default Re: Keep 10 - please help me pick who to drop

    My analysis ignores Corsi, because I really am not well-versed in it enough to remotely try and predict it.

    I think I prefer keeping Letang, Schenn, Provorov and Chabot, and letting Binnington go.

    Skaters are generally safer to keep, and you laready have a good #1 goalie. Binnington was shaky this year, and I'd rather keep a 3rd very good D rather than an average second goalie.
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    Default Re: Keep 10 - please help me pick who to drop

    My three picks would be the three Dmen: Letang, Provorov, and Chabot. I could see a case to keep Schenn over Binnington, but it might make things a lot easier for you to go into the draft with two workhorse goalies already in place.
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    I'd keep Schenn, Provorov, and Chabot.

    It's tough for me to choose between Letang and Schenn, but Letang's injury history makes me avoid him in most leagues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevegamer View Post
    My analysis ignores Corsi, because I really am not well-versed in it enough to remotely try and predict it.

    I think I prefer keeping Letang, Schenn, Provorv and Chabot, and letting Binnington go.

    Skaters are generally safer to keep, and you laready have a good #1 goalie. Binnington was shaky this year, and I'd rather keep a 3rd very good D rather than an average second goalie.
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    when it comes to Corsi its all over the map year to year even more than +-, i have it in one league and hate it...
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    For me, it really comes down to three of these four:

    Letang D
    Schenn C
    Provorov D
    Chabot D

    The rest are not in the conversation when it comes to a limited keeper here.

    It was mentioned earlier that you should let Binnington go and just keep the four I just listed. I personally disagree with that. Right now, you currently own two of (arguably) the top seven goalies in fantasy hockey if you look at their pre-covid numbers. I am not going to buy into the hype that Binnington is on the way out/down because of a shakey post-Covid tournament performance. He's still the guy on a very good St Louis team. We dont even know for sure that Husso will be his backup, but it's probably a safe assumption. None the less, Binnington is still the guy going into next season on a very good team. I'd rather have two of the top goalies in the league than a couple excellent Dmen in the game. Those are a hell of a lot easier to find in the re-draft than high end goalies.

    Getting down to who I'd keep from the four, this is tougher than I'd like to imagine. If it's me, I am probably cutting the 33 year old Letang free and building for the future around the two 23 year olds in Chabot and Provorov. Yes, Letang is better than those two in most of the categories your league provides, but it's not that great of a differential for me. You aren't losing as much as you may think if you look at the numbers. Between his age and his injury past, Letang should be easier to redraft than Provorov and/or Chabot.
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    I would go Schenn, Provorov and Chabot here.

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    I'd go with Chabot, Provorov, and Letang. I'm tempted to keep Schenn but think that he's the most likely to be available to redraft but the three D men will be gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanDan View Post
    I'd go with Chabot, Provorov, and Letang. I'm tempted to keep Schenn but think that he's the most likely to be available to redraft but the three D men will be gone.
    Not Sure about Letang...he should be gone but people do shy away from him due to injury concerns and age at this point.
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    No way I'm keeping Binnington. G, outside the few very dependable ones like Vas, are so mercurial it's not worth the spot Not sure when your keeper decision needs to be made but I'd wait and see where Ristolainen ends up. He could be a good keep and does well with a number of your stat cats. Schenn, Chabot, and Provorov for sure keep. I agree that I'd avoid Letang. I even like Olofsson as a keeper here.
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    i wouldnt keep geaudreau then keep , letang, chabot, schenn and Provorov personally and to have a goaltending duo of Vasi and binnington, dont hesitate, my guess is when all is said and done, binnington could be moved for someone better than geadreau, goalies are a risk for sure but they are usually the difference between 1st and 4th place from my experience

    and based on your keepers you have been robbing people in trades for years lol

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    Thanks for all the great replies everyone!

    Of my current team I've actually only fleeced one other team when I landed Kucherov before he exploded on the scene with a trade like 2nd rounder + Howard + some other guy I forgot. Otherwise I came into the league, intentionally sucked for 2-3 years and drafted really well the likes of Matthews, Pastrnak, Draisaitl, Vas and was just patient. Now I'm on 2 years running of league champ and want to make it a 3peat!

    Goalies are massive in my league, especially clear cut #1 goalies in which I believe Binnington would be.
    Here are the goalies and dmen rankings from last year for context:

    "Player","Team","Position","Rk","Status","Age","Op ponent","Score","GP","G","A","Pt","PIM","SOG","PPP ","SHP","Hit","Blk","Cor"
    "Roman Josi","NSH","D","1","-","30","","87.08","69","16","49","65","41","260"," 23","0","52","108","182"
    "John Carlson","WSH","D","2","-","30","","86.26","69","15","60","75","26","189"," 26","0","55","108","109"
    "Neal Pionk","WPG","D","3","-","25","","79.43","71","6","39","45","32","177","2 5","0","165","78","85"
    "Alex Pietrangelo","STL","D","4","-","30","","78.57","70","16","36","52","20","225"," 22","1","47","89","148"
    "Victor Hedman","TB","D","5","-","29","","77.56","66","11","44","55","31","155"," 22","0","73","98","143"
    "Jeff Petry","MON","D","6","-","32","","76.46","71","11","29","40","26","158"," 12","1","177","79","368"
    "Torey Krug","BOS","D","7","-","29","","72.17","61","9","40","49","33","144","2 8","0","36","48","209"
    "Kris Letang","PIT","D","8","-","33","","72.14","61","15","29","44","38","177"," 15","0","101","91","78"
    "Brent Burns","SJ","D","9","-","35","","72.01","70","12","33","45","34","225"," 17","1","72","115","-5"
    "Shea Theodore","VGK","D","10","-","25","","71.99","71","13","33","46","25","219"," 16","1","20","69","423"
    "Shea Weber","MON","D","11","-","35","","70.85","65","15","21","36","33","185"," 8","0","112","114","229"
    "Mikhail Sergachev","TB","D","12","-","22","","69.16","70","10","24","34","58","118"," 13","1","106","99","147"
    "Ivan Provorov","PHI","D","13","-","23","","68.03","69","13","23","36","24","150"," 16","1","84","111","94"
    "Dougie Hamilton","CAR","D","14","-","27","","67.93","47","14","26","40","32","170"," 12","1","52","63","247"
    "Quinn Hughes","VAN","D","15","-","20","","66.24","68","8","45","53","22","126","2 5","0","7","46","146"
    "Matt Niskanen","PHI","D","16","-","33","","65.85","68","8","25","33","29","126","1 3","1","124","84","100"
    "Thomas Chabot","OTT","D","17","-","23","","65.2","71","6","33","39","42","186","11 ","0","79","85","59"
    "Cale Makar","COL","D","18","-","21","","64.08","57","12","38","50","12","121"," 19","0","45","47","114"
    "Tony DeAngelo","NYR","D","19","-","24","","64.01","68","15","38","53","47","149"," 19","0","48","57","-65"
    "Mark Giordano","CGY","D","20","-","36","","63.99","60","5","26","31","34","157","1 1","2","42","148","102"
    "Drew Doughty","LA","D","21","-","30","","63.32","67","7","28","35","36","141","1 4","1","106","87","3"
    "Tyson Barrie","TOR","D","22","-","29","","62.48","70","5","34","39","16","169","1 2","0","47","76","201"
    "Ben Chiarot","MON","D","23","-","29","","61.81","69","9","12","21","61","130","0 ","0","152","128","204"
    "Jacob Trouba","NYR","D","24","-","26","","61.78","70","7","20","27","61","168","8 ","2","173","128","-241"
    "Darnell Nurse","EDM","D","25","-","25","","61.04","71","5","28","33","48","170","5 ","0","172","141","-97"
    "Aaron Ekblad","FLA","D","26","-","24","","61.01","67","5","36","41","26","147","6 ","1","34","84","169"
    "Zach Werenski","CBJ","D","27","-","23","","60.54","63","20","21","41","10","187"," 13","1","36","58","21"
    "Ryan Suter","MIN","D","28","-","35","","60.43","69","8","40","48","12","111","1 8","0","48","93","13"
    "Rasmus Dahlin","BUF","D","29","-","20","","60.06","59","4","36","40","38","90","19 ","0","72","51","64"


    "Player","Team","Position","Rk","Status","Age","Op ponent","Score","GP","W","GAA","SV","SV%","SHO"
    "Connor Hellebuyck","WPG","G","1","-","27","","100","58","31","2.57","1,656",".922","6 "
    "Carey Price","MON","G","2","-","33","","93.37","58","27","2.79","1,595",".909", "4"
    "Tuukka Rask","BOS","G","3","-","33","","91.36","41","26","2.12","1,104",".929", "5"
    "Andrei Vasilevskiy","TB","G","4","-","26","","90.28","52","35","2.56","1,472",".917", "3"
    "Marc-Andre Fleury","VGK","G","5","-","35","","89.8","49","27","2.77","1,266",".905"," 5"
    "Frederik Andersen","TOR","G","6","-","30","","88.22","52","29","2.85","1,434",".909", "3"
    "Jordan Binnington","STL","G","7","-","27","","87.06","50","30","2.56","1,304",".912", "3"
    "MacKenzie Blackwood","NJ","G","8","-","23","","86.37","47","22","2.77","1,328",".915", "3"
    "Jacob Markstrom","VAN","G","9","-","30","","82.58","43","23","2.75","1,303",".918", "2"
    "Ben Bishop","DAL","G","10","-","33","","81.89","44","21","2.50","1,183",".920", "2"


    I actually really like the idea of keeping all 3 dmen and letting Schenn go back into the pool and try to re-draft him, which is what I did the previous year. IMO he is pretty under-rated in my format, he's also the 18th ranked center fyi. I feel top ranked dmen are more important then top ranked centers.

    Now I'm leaning towards keeping Letang, Provorov and Chabot over Provorov, Chabot and Schenn over my original idea Letang, Provorov and Schenn.
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    Right: Kucherov, Draisaitl, Pastrnak
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    Default Re: Keep 10 - please help me pick who to drop

    Top 3 from that list are Provorov, Chabot and Schenn. I think you'll have a far easier time redrafting Letang than one of those three thanks to his age and injury history.
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