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    Default Dubois/Hart,Vas,Samsonov,Shesterkin

    I’m looking to acquire a high end goalie and I am getting some bites around giving up Dubois(potentially adding picks to it) for one of Hart/Vas/Shes/Samsonov. I’m trying to deal from a position of strenght(Fwd) to add to what I deem a weakness

    Would trading Dubois for any of the mentionned goalies and if so which ones(maybe ranked for those you would)
    8 Team Keeper League
    Keep 35 at the end of the year+5 JR slots(can be kept for 3 yrs after draft or less than 10 NHL games)

    Points(4) PIM(0.5) +\-(0.5) Wins(5) SO(5) GA(-0.5) Save(0.1)

    Roster:
    17F
    8D
    3G
    12Farm
    5 JR spots

    F: Landeskog Mackinnon Kaprizov Panarin Rantanen Bratt Buchnevich Hintz
    Kreider Svechnikov Marner T. Wilson Guentzel Rust Fiala Aho Meier

    D: Carlson Toews Theodore Krug Klingberg Barrie Ekblad Weegar

    G: Bobrovsky Saros Vasilevskiy

    Farm: Hagel, Petersen, Yamamoto, R. Strome, Addison Bjorkstrand ,JEEK, Duchene, Hartman, Severson, Burakovsky ,Nicushkin, Barbashev

    JRs: Bourgault L. Cormier Lambos Olausson Zellweger

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    Default Re: Dubois/Hart,Vas,Samsonov,Shesterkin

    Is it a cap league? I'm surprised Vas is on the table if it's not, and I'd definitely trade Dubois for Vas. But don't panic about your goalies either. Saros will step into #1 in Nashville next season, and you have both (for now) Colorado goalies plus Holtby as a UFA (and I don't see him signing to be a backup). With the condensed schedule next season, I believe most teams will rotate their goalies to prevent injuries, so even Vasilevksy won't play as many games as he has in the past. Expect there to be an even load between the 1A and 1B goalies next year, which lessens the need for a bona fide star. That being said, here's my list anyway:

    Vasilevksy
    Shestkerin
    Hart
    Samsonov
    League 1
    Keep 16 - 4 rookies max 162 GP
    Forwards: Point, Tavares, Svechnikov, Boeser, R Strome, Teravainen, Tarasenko, Arvidsson, Tolvanen
    Defencemen: Boqvist, Hamilton, Dahlin, Klingberg, Ekblad, Hronek, Marino, Brannstrom, Shattenkirk
    Goalies: Vasilevsky, Shesterkin,
    Minors: Kravtsov, Tolvanen, Brannstrom

    League 2
    Keep 18 - 4 rookies max 162 GP
    Forwards: J Hughes, Kakko, Cozens, Frost, Kubalik, M Tkachuk, Vrana, A Svechnikov, Virtanen, Buchnevich, Gurianov, Tarasenko, Lehkonen
    Defencemen: R Andersson, Jokiharju, Trouba, Valimaki, Cholowski, Leddy, Montour
    Goalies: Saros, Sorokin, Talbot
    Minors: Heponiemi, Krebs, Tippett, Hoglander, Liljegren, Bouchard,

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    Default Re: Dubois/Hart,Vas,Samsonov,Shesterkin

    do you have any of these deals on the table or you just hoping you can do it? if i was other GM (with goalies) i would be asking for some other of your skaters before PLD.

    Having said that, i would do it in this order: Vasilevsky, Shesterkin, Samsonov, Hart...

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    Default Re: Dubois/Hart,Vas,Samsonov,Shesterkin

    I'm shocked Vasilevskiy is available.

    Vasilevskiy
    Shesterkin
    Hart
    Samsonov
    12 team, H2H, salary cap
    1 pt/G or A, 2 pts/W, 1 pt/OTL, 1 pt/SO

    Forward: B. Point, M. Necas, A. Debrincat, T. Zegras, J. Bratt, L. Raymond
    Defense: J. Morrissey, A. DeAngelo, S. Gostisbehere, D. Doughty
    Goalie: T. Demko, E. Merzlikins
    Bench: M. Rossi, C. Glass, M. Maccelli, M. Dumba, K. Shattenkirk, F. Andersen
    Prospects of Note: L. Stankoven, J. Lekkerimaki, D. Yurov, B. Clarke

    League has been running continuously since 1997-98

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    Default Re: Dubois/Hart,Vas,Samsonov,Shesterkin

    Quote Originally Posted by Avs31 View Post
    I’m looking to acquire a high end goalie and I am getting some bites around giving up Dubois(potentially adding picks to it) for one of Hart/Vas/Shes/Samsonov. I’m trying to deal from a position of strenght(Fwd) to add to what I deem a weakness

    Would trading Dubois for any of the mentionned goalies and if so which ones(maybe ranked for those you would)
    If you can trade Dubois + for any of these goalies, I'd be all over it. My rankings are very similar to the other posters here:

    Vasilevskiy
    Shesterkin
    Hart
    Samsonov
    10 Team, Points Only, Cash League

    25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
    Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
    Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt

    Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink

    G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger


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    Default Re: Dubois/Hart,Vas,Samsonov,Shesterkin

    Not a cap league. Dubois might not be enough for Vas..I’m thinking of Dubois+Debrincat for Vas or Shesterkin? Is that too much?

    I can prob acquire also Samsonov for Dubois straight up, would that be better?
    8 Team Keeper League
    Keep 35 at the end of the year+5 JR slots(can be kept for 3 yrs after draft or less than 10 NHL games)

    Points(4) PIM(0.5) +\-(0.5) Wins(5) SO(5) GA(-0.5) Save(0.1)

    Roster:
    17F
    8D
    3G
    12Farm
    5 JR spots

    F: Landeskog Mackinnon Kaprizov Panarin Rantanen Bratt Buchnevich Hintz
    Kreider Svechnikov Marner T. Wilson Guentzel Rust Fiala Aho Meier

    D: Carlson Toews Theodore Krug Klingberg Barrie Ekblad Weegar

    G: Bobrovsky Saros Vasilevskiy

    Farm: Hagel, Petersen, Yamamoto, R. Strome, Addison Bjorkstrand ,JEEK, Duchene, Hartman, Severson, Burakovsky ,Nicushkin, Barbashev

    JRs: Bourgault L. Cormier Lambos Olausson Zellweger

    IR: Couturier/Ellis


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    Default Re: Dubois/Hart,Vas,Samsonov,Shesterkin

    well, if you are making the deal, I'd want Vasilevskiy, even if it means giving up Debrincat as well. Though I suppose that is somewhat dependent on who you replace Debrincat with on your roster.

    Shesterkin may be a good option, but Vasilevskiy is more of a guarantee. As high as most are on Shesterkin, I keep saying over and over again that we have seen many highly-touted goalies struggle to start their NHL career, so I'm not 100% convinced he will immediately be a star goalie. I'd certainly take a shot at him if there weren't better options available, but it just doesn't get better than Vasilevskiy so I'd try for him first.
    12 team, H2H, salary cap
    1 pt/G or A, 2 pts/W, 1 pt/OTL, 1 pt/SO

    Forward: B. Point, M. Necas, A. Debrincat, T. Zegras, J. Bratt, L. Raymond
    Defense: J. Morrissey, A. DeAngelo, S. Gostisbehere, D. Doughty
    Goalie: T. Demko, E. Merzlikins
    Bench: M. Rossi, C. Glass, M. Maccelli, M. Dumba, K. Shattenkirk, F. Andersen
    Prospects of Note: L. Stankoven, J. Lekkerimaki, D. Yurov, B. Clarke

    League has been running continuously since 1997-98

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    Default Re: Dubois/Hart,Vas,Samsonov,Shesterkin

    Quote Originally Posted by SeaDawg View Post
    well, if you are making the deal, I'd want Vasilevskiy, even if it means giving up Debrincat as well. Though I suppose that is somewhat dependent on who you replace Debrincat with on your roster.

    Shesterkin may be a good option, but Vasilevskiy is more of a guarantee. As high as most are on Shesterkin, I keep saying over and over again that we have seen many highly-touted goalies struggle to start their NHL career, so I'm not 100% convinced he will immediately be a star goalie. I'd certainly take a shot at him if there weren't better options available, but it just doesn't get better than Vasilevskiy so I'd try for him first.
    My drops currently(I have one spot open, 2 if I trade both Debrincat and Dubois)

    Obv since we start less than what I’m keeping it the player replacing them would prob not be one of the below but already part of my keepers(we recently changed the format from 15F to 17F starting and 7D to 8D starting fyi)


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    • Labanc
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    • Johnsson
    • Francouz
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    8 Team Keeper League
    Keep 35 at the end of the year+5 JR slots(can be kept for 3 yrs after draft or less than 10 NHL games)

    Points(4) PIM(0.5) +\-(0.5) Wins(5) SO(5) GA(-0.5) Save(0.1)

    Roster:
    17F
    8D
    3G
    12Farm
    5 JR spots

    F: Landeskog Mackinnon Kaprizov Panarin Rantanen Bratt Buchnevich Hintz
    Kreider Svechnikov Marner T. Wilson Guentzel Rust Fiala Aho Meier

    D: Carlson Toews Theodore Krug Klingberg Barrie Ekblad Weegar

    G: Bobrovsky Saros Vasilevskiy

    Farm: Hagel, Petersen, Yamamoto, R. Strome, Addison Bjorkstrand ,JEEK, Duchene, Hartman, Severson, Burakovsky ,Nicushkin, Barbashev

    JRs: Bourgault L. Cormier Lambos Olausson Zellweger

    IR: Couturier/Ellis


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    Default Re: Dubois/Hart,Vas,Samsonov,Shesterkin

    I believe you made the deal for Vas, right?
    12 team Yahoo Roto keeper (keep 3)
    9 F, 6 D; roster 3 G max
    G,A,PPP,SOG,BLKS,HITS - W,SO,SV%,Saves

    F: B Tkachuk, Stutzle, Eriksson Ek, Necas, Konecny, Cooley, Boldy, Lehkonen, Tippett
    D: Dahlin, Seider, Matheson, Durzi, Addison, Mintyukov
    G: Hill, Husso

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    Default Re: Dubois/Hart,Vas,Samsonov,Shesterkin

    Yes deal was made after these threads lol I appreciate everyones input!!
    8 Team Keeper League
    Keep 35 at the end of the year+5 JR slots(can be kept for 3 yrs after draft or less than 10 NHL games)

    Points(4) PIM(0.5) +\-(0.5) Wins(5) SO(5) GA(-0.5) Save(0.1)

    Roster:
    17F
    8D
    3G
    12Farm
    5 JR spots

    F: Landeskog Mackinnon Kaprizov Panarin Rantanen Bratt Buchnevich Hintz
    Kreider Svechnikov Marner T. Wilson Guentzel Rust Fiala Aho Meier

    D: Carlson Toews Theodore Krug Klingberg Barrie Ekblad Weegar

    G: Bobrovsky Saros Vasilevskiy

    Farm: Hagel, Petersen, Yamamoto, R. Strome, Addison Bjorkstrand ,JEEK, Duchene, Hartman, Severson, Burakovsky ,Nicushkin, Barbashev

    JRs: Bourgault L. Cormier Lambos Olausson Zellweger

    IR: Couturier/Ellis


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    Default Re: Dubois/Hart,Vas,Samsonov,Shesterkin

    Did I screw this up now that Dubois is in WPG? Lol
    8 Team Keeper League
    Keep 35 at the end of the year+5 JR slots(can be kept for 3 yrs after draft or less than 10 NHL games)

    Points(4) PIM(0.5) +\-(0.5) Wins(5) SO(5) GA(-0.5) Save(0.1)

    Roster:
    17F
    8D
    3G
    12Farm
    5 JR spots

    F: Landeskog Mackinnon Kaprizov Panarin Rantanen Bratt Buchnevich Hintz
    Kreider Svechnikov Marner T. Wilson Guentzel Rust Fiala Aho Meier

    D: Carlson Toews Theodore Krug Klingberg Barrie Ekblad Weegar

    G: Bobrovsky Saros Vasilevskiy

    Farm: Hagel, Petersen, Yamamoto, R. Strome, Addison Bjorkstrand ,JEEK, Duchene, Hartman, Severson, Burakovsky ,Nicushkin, Barbashev

    JRs: Bourgault L. Cormier Lambos Olausson Zellweger

    IR: Couturier/Ellis


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    Default Re: Dubois/Hart,Vas,Samsonov,Shesterkin

    No! haha no screwup. I can't believe you got Vas for that. Don't worry, be happy
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    C,3LW,3RW,5D,2G (positional game played cap)
    G(3),A(2),+/-(1),PM(0.5),PPP(1),GW(1),S(0.4),W(4),SV(0.2),GA(-1),SO(2)
    C:Aho, Barkov, Pavelski(RW), Nugent-Hop(LW)
    R:Rantanen, Pasta, Konecny
    L:Guentzel, Gaudreau, Keller(RW), Benn
    D:Makar, Karlsson, Sergachev, Dobson, Hronek, Sanderson
    G:Vasilevskiy, Hart, Kuemper, Kotchetkov, Husso





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    Default Re: Dubois/Hart,Vas,Samsonov,Shesterkin

    Quote Originally Posted by Avs31 View Post
    Did I screw this up now that Dubois is in WPG? Lol
    Nope. Enjoy your goalie.
    10 Team, Points Only, Cash League

    25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
    Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
    Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt

    Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink

    G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger


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