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    Dobber darling offensive D who never got the opportunity under gritty coaches (Boughner, Q) finds himself on a new team that favours uptempo D and has two of the most talented centres in the league? Cannot wait for the views from Dobbs on this one...

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    Good grief


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    Per Penguins source, the reason for the trade holdup: The Penguins have been unable to reach Patric Hornqvist to make sure he approves the trade to Florida.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis View Post
    wtf if that is true
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    No trade clause kicks in lol

    trade leaked before Honrqvist approved it? im assuming he knew he was shopped around just not his landing spot
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    From Hornqvist waiving perspective, for a guy with 2 cup rings there seems to be a lot worse places to be traded to than a no-pressure environment in South Beach that's tax free.

    From a Pit trade perspective, Hornqvists 33-36 YO seasons probably will continue to age poorly and he's become a third/fourth liner at $5.3M per year. Their PP was terrible this year so he's not really a loss there from Pit's perspective, but if you're trading Hornqvist you'd probably like to clear more than ~$400k off your cap. Not to mention you now have $16.25M committed to your left side D. Are they planning to move one of Matheson, Pettersson, or Johnson to the right side or are they planning to trade one of those players?

    From a Fla trade perspective, They currently only have 6 forwards under contract, and arguable only 2 top 6 forwards. Under contract you have Connolly, Vatrano, Acciari, and Sceviour. You could maybe stretch out 2 top 6 wingers from that group. Their four RFAs are Hunt, Saarela, Toninato, and Wallmark, so unlikely you have any top 6 wingers in there. So Florida needs to find/add 1 top 6 C and somewhere between 3 and 1 top 6 winger. That is basically counting on some of Borgstrom, Heponiemi, Denisenko, and Tippett to be ready to go. Hornqvist seems to be top 6 insurance and an upgrade in their bottom 6 if those guys step up.

    Fantasy wise, this is probably a small upgrade to both players fantasy value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belexus75 View Post
    No trade clause kicks in lol

    trade leaked before Honrqvist approved it? im assuming he knew he was shopped around just not his landing spot
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    What a gong show if this falls through.
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    Friedman tweeted it's being held up due to insurance purposes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2014olympicgold View Post
    Friedman tweeted it's being held up due to insurance purposes.
    Well thats more promising than wondering about the NTC being the reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fantasyhockeygeek View Post
    Dobber darling offensive D who never got the opportunity under gritty coaches (Boughner, Q) finds himself on a new team that favours uptempo D and has two of the most talented centres in the league? Cannot wait for the views from Dobbs on this one...
    Was Matheson a Dobber darling? What was so appealing about Matheson? Looking at his career numbers in the college and the AHL it doesn't look like there's anything particularly special about him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    Well thats more promising than wondering about the NTC being the reason.
    Yeah, likely Pitts didn't get a full insurance policy out on Hornqvist and they were ok with paying him not to play, Florida is obviously not in the financial situation to be able to do that.

    Likely won't officially happen for a day or two while an insurance policy gets re-written up to fully cover the Hornqvist deal. Or it'll fall apart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bondon View Post
    Was Matheson a Dobber darling? What was so appealing about Matheson? Looking at his career numbers in the college and the AHL it doesn't look like there's anything particularly special about him.
    Didnt he have something like 200 SOG a couple seasons ago? I didnt go look but I think he was shooting like crazy at one time.
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    His output never matched the hype at any level. The underwhelming NHL numbers are not surprising.


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    I guess this will help address the Helicopter Line problem.
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    Dobber got hot on the Matheson train when he was a powerhouse at the Worlds. I bought into the hype a couple years running... wasn't his hottest take. Although not going to be surprised if he doubles down.
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