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    TLDR: Requesting Fantrax users on Dobber to send a ticket asking for a league setup feature to limit minor league transactions/call ups. This could be a number limit per matchup or ability to restrict minor league transactions to a certain day of the week.

    Hey there. Posting this as a request to other Fantrax users especially commishes. I'm hoping to get some backup in my campaign to advocate for the above league setting. Even if you don't run a pool your help would be appreciated!

    Perhaps the #1 reason I love using Fantrax is the ability to easily make a minor league roster to compliment the scoring roster. For example, I run a dynasty pool with 16 skaters/4 bench/1 goalie and a minor league of 15 players. Like many of you, I limit the eligibility towards inexperienced skaters and prospects. For maximum fun, GMs are able to call up these minor leaguers to fill in for injured players or fill out a roster when other guys aren't playing.

    Problem is, Fantrax does not give us the option to limit these call ups in any way. The result is GMs load up on unproductive players/specialists to churn them through the roster and increase their overall games played. There is an option to limit the games played per week - which we use - but this does not address the inherent problem (minor callups).

    The games played limitis also flawed. On Fantrax, the games played limit is calculated after the Saturday games, meaning you can meet the limit on Saturday night and (in my pool) potentially exceed it by 16. The NHL schedule is also too volatile to move the GP limit lower as busy weeks can cause rather dramatic increases in GP even on teams that don't use minor league players for scoring. It simply doesn't work as a tool to limit minor league roster churn.

    The ability to limit minor league transactions, or to make it so they only occur on a set day like Sunday or Monday would balance off this feature without clunky workaround solutions. I've sent requests to Fantrax over the years advocating for this feature but all I get is 'maybe someday' responses.

    My hope is to get other commishes/GMs to join me in requesting this - strength in numbers! This can be done by clicking the menu button on the right (three lines), clicking support and feedback and sending them a note asking for a feature to limit minor league transactions! This simple setting change would go a long way towards building pools that are fair, competitive and fun.

    Thanks Dobber peeps!

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    Default Re: Request to Fantrax commissioners

    it became a pet peeve of mine so my new dynasty league that is in the process of drafting will keep a seperate farm team from the pro-team .

    the pro teams will be in one division , farm teams in another division . gm's will post on the league board if they want someone called up / sent down and I will manually process all the farm related transactions once a week .

    all other league business will be daily though .

    I know that not all commishes would have time for this but I dont mind if its just once a week .

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    That would be a great thing for Fantrax to implement if they can write it into their code. I know it's something that's just policed by the GMs usually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eskimo Brother View Post
    That would be a great thing for Fantrax to implement if they can write it into their code. I know it's something that's just policed by the GMs usually.
    In practice that never works over the long haul, especially when the commissioner goes soft on properly enforcing violations. As you said, this feature is a must.

    I know it's not an overly difficult thing to code. It's just a matter of them being willing to invest in such a change. Would enough leagues out there make use of this feature?


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    I've begged them to allow a specific dollar amount to travel between minors and pro without needing to go through waivers etc. No dice. Maybe one day they will implement it.
    I've also requested having a separate "junior" partition and no dice there either.
    Even for a fee, why not allow customization?

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    No thanks from me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skippy View Post
    No thanks from me.
    What do you mean "no thanks"? It would just be an option you could turn on in your league if you wanted to.
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    Default Re: Request to Fantrax commissioners

    I knew there was a lot of interest out there for something like this. Yes, it's a simple change - if you can have Fenwick as a scoring category you can add an option to limit the number of roster moves pertaining to the minor league.

    Folks this is why I'm posting this - if we can get a few dozen folks sending tickets to Fantrax requesting this feature I'm confident we can get it done! Spread the word

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    Quote Originally Posted by roenick27 View Post
    I've begged them to allow a specific dollar amount to travel between minors and pro without needing to go through waivers etc. No dice. Maybe one day they will implement it.
    I've also requested having a separate "junior" partition and no dice there either.
    Even for a fee, why not allow customization?
    Actually, there is a dollar amount you can enter in the fantrax system to help with minors to pro streaming.

    We have implemented it in my one league.
    Commissioners have an option under Commissioner > League Setup > Fees & Prizes tab -

    There is a category called - Move players from minors and you can enter a dollar amount. We entered $1 per transaction and once submitted the total amount will appear under Team > Team Finances tab as the amount owing.
    Then a few times during the season we take that total and deduct it from their yearly waiver transactions and reset the money amount.

    Hope this helps, as it is the only real trackable solution at the moment.
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    Hate to be that guy, but if it was a "simple change", they probably would have done it already. I'm a developer, and trust me, low hanging fruit is our go-to feel good fix.

    If something isn't being implemented, usually comes down to:

    1. The demand isn't as big as you think it is (your 49 replies on a hockey forum don't count)
    2. The effort to fix my shit code that I developed 5 years ago is just... well it's gonna need a lot more than 49 pissed off hockey fans.
    3. Hockey fans are not quite our focus, sorry? But still please give us your money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glorybe23 View Post
    Actually, there is a dollar amount you can enter in the fantrax system to help with minors to pro streaming.

    We have implemented it in my one league.
    Commissioners have an option under Commissioner > League Setup > Fees & Prizes tab -

    There is a category called - Move players from minors and you can enter a dollar amount. We entered $1 per transaction and once submitted the total amount will appear under Team > Team Finances tab as the amount owing.
    Then a few times during the season we take that total and deduct it from their yearly waiver transactions and reset the money amount.

    Hope this helps, as it is the only real trackable solution at the moment.
    Thanks. I actually meant it as a waiver bar as in anyone under x million can pass through to the minors without being subject to waivers etc. Right now, like a lot of other leagues, were dependent on commish checks and teams posting moves that qualify on a separate forum.

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    If you want to "make it so that minor league calls ups can only happen on a set day like Sunday or Monday" can't you just make that a league rule and enforce it by telling GM's that any points obtained by calling up a minor league eligible player after Sunday or Monday will result in loss of all points for that day or at least a loss of all point accumulated by the player illegally called up on that day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GavinC View Post
    Hate to be that guy, but if it was a "simple change", they probably would have done it already. I'm a developer, and trust me, low hanging fruit is our go-to feel good fix.

    If something isn't being implemented, usually comes down to:

    1. The demand isn't as big as you think it is (your 49 replies on a hockey forum don't count)
    2. The effort to fix my shit code that I developed 5 years ago is just... well it's gonna need a lot more than 49 pissed off hockey fans.
    3. Hockey fans are not quite our focus, sorry? But still please give us your money.
    I agree with this, but it is possible. For a number of years, people were complaining about the loophole with minor league eligibility. If you set it at 50GP for example, then at 49GP you could put the player in the minors and leave him there forever. It wasn't until he was voluntarily removed from the minors that you couldn't put him back. Even at that time, you could hit select an option for "illegal rosters" and fantrax would display this as illegal. But there was nothing you could do electronically to enforce it.

    Fantrax fixed this. You can now select an option to make a roster illegal if someone if the minors exceeds the GP limit.

    But yes, I agree with you. Fantrax just has amazingly shitty service for hockey fans, because there is nothing else better out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorybe23 View Post
    Actually, there is a dollar amount you can enter in the fantrax system to help with minors to pro streaming.

    We have implemented it in my one league.
    Commissioners have an option under Commissioner > League Setup > Fees & Prizes tab -

    There is a category called - Move players from minors and you can enter a dollar amount. We entered $1 per transaction and once submitted the total amount will appear under Team > Team Finances tab as the amount owing.
    Then a few times during the season we take that total and deduct it from their yearly waiver transactions and reset the money amount.

    Hope this helps, as it is the only real trackable solution at the moment.

    Is there a way to reset the balances and put people back to $0?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HabsBlood View Post
    Is there a way to reset the balances and put people back to $0?
    Yep
    Commissioner > Team Administration > Fees Paid > Enter 0 for each team to reset.
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