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    Default Matt Tkachuk or Guentzel?

    Points only, salary cap league,

    Tkachuk (7M)

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    Tkachuk at 6M
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    points only... I am taking Guentzel. Cheaper salary and plays with Crosby so will continue to rack up points.
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    Default Re: Matt Tkachuk or Guentzel?

    Guentzel by a country mile.

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    Guentzal

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetcelly View Post
    Guentzel by a country mile.
    That might even be selling it short.
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    Default Re: Matt Tkachuk or Guentzel?

    Ill take tkachuck until guentzel can stay healthy , either way it will be close at the end of the year, if healthy slight edge to guentzel.

    Maybe its a string of bad luck, but crosby and malkin tend to get injuries as well, so although the better player i think tkachuck the better option

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    Default Re: Matt Tkachuk or Guentzel?

    Guentzel and it's not that close imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjm44 View Post
    Ill take tkachuck until guentzel can stay healthy , either way it will be close at the end of the year, if healthy slight edge to guentzel.

    Maybe its a string of bad luck, but crosby and malkin tend to get injuries as well, so although the better player i think tkachuck the better option
    I guess the other consideration there is how easy it is to replace an injured player?
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    I will vote Tkachuk. Tkachuk has had more points than Guentzel in each of their first four seasons. I don't see any reason that won't continue especially when Tkachuk is finally developing his man strength. Guentzel is also 3 years older so probably closer to his peak thank Tkachuk.

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    Default Re: Matt Tkachuk or Guentzel?

    Without hits as a category, I’m taking Guentzel.

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    This is an interesting poll as everyone seems to be voting for Guentzel because it's a points only league. Here are their stats for their first four NHL seasons:

    Player A
    40 GP - 33 Pts - his 22 year old season
    82 GP - 48 Pts - his 23 year old season
    82 GP - 76 Pts - his 24 year old season
    39 GP - 43 Pts - his 25 year old season

    Player B
    76GP - 48 Pts - his 19 year old season
    68 GP - 49 Pts - his 20 year old season
    80 GP - 77 Pts - his 21 year old season
    69 GP - 61 Pts - his 22 year old season

    I am trying to figure out why people like Guentzel more than Tkachuk and can't do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckcouples View Post
    This is an interesting poll as everyone seems to be voting for Guentzel because it's a points only league. Here are their stats for their first four NHL seasons:

    Player A
    40 GP - 33 Pts - his 22 year old season
    82 GP - 48 Pts - his 23 year old season
    82 GP - 76 Pts - his 24 year old season
    39 GP - 43 Pts - his 25 year old season

    Player B
    76GP - 48 Pts - his 19 year old season
    68 GP - 49 Pts - his 20 year old season
    80 GP - 77 Pts - his 21 year old season
    69 GP - 61 Pts - his 22 year old season

    I am trying to figure out why people like Guentzel more than Tkachuk and can't do it.
    Perhaps because player A paced for 90 points last season, while player B paced for 72?

    Add to that player A has a cheaper salary.

    As well as the fact player A's centre is Sidney Crosby, while player B's centre is Mikael Backlund.

    You're focusing on age, but breakout is more related to games played than age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetcelly View Post
    Perhaps because player A paced for 90 points last season, while player B paced for 72?

    Add to that player A has a cheaper salary.

    As well as the fact player A's centre is Sidney Crosby, while player B's centre is Mikael Backlund.

    You're focusing on age, but breakout is more related to games played than age.
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    Those are all good points. I don't like using pace to project full season results but other do. So does the NHL apparently since James Neal scored 21 goals this year according to the Lucic trade!

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