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    I pass, simply because this feels like you are banking on Caufield to be a star within 3 years. Maybe. Maybe not. I'll take Wheeler's production now, and go for the win.

    I get what you are trying to do, but I'd hate to see you lose out on a championship for fear of holding a player too long.

    I'd rather go for championships, and then rebuild, if necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevegamer View Post
    I saw that, but I wasn't sure if it was auction or NHL salaries.

    What are the salaries of the players involved?
    Wheeler is $7.85

    Kase is $3.65
    Caufield is $4.00 with 3 years of minor league eligibility at which time he would have to be part of your active roster and subject 10% salary increase every Jan. 1st.
    Soderstrom is $3.50 with 4 years eligibility
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puckhead View Post
    Wheeler is $7.85

    Kase is $3.65
    Caufield is $4.00 with 3 years of minor league eligibility at which time he would have to be part of your active roster and subject 10% salary increase every Jan. 1st.
    Soderstrom is $3.50 with 4 years eligibility
    That's a hard pass. Caulfield & Soderstrom cost too much once they hit your roster.
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    Okay, so the proposal has changed...I can't protect Malkin, and at almost $14, is a tough ask to expect any type of value back to me. I had resigned myself to just letting him go back into the auction draft. Then my previous trade partner that inspired this thread, sent the following offer;

    Malkin $13.80
    Wheeler $7.85
    2020 2nd round pick

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    Kopitar $7.35
    Kase $3.65
    Devo - Soderstrom $3.50
    2021 1st round pick

    Your thoughts on if this makes sense, or what I should look to counter are appreciated.
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    R - Nylander, Wheeler, Gallagher, Rust
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    That's a terrible return.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eskimo Brother View Post
    That's a terrible return.
    I get that it looks bad when you look at him getting Malkin and Wheeler, but when I can't protect Malkin? Would you rather lose Malkin for nothing and keep Wheeler?
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    C - Bergeron, Zibanejad,
    L - Connor, Marchand, Olofsson
    R - Nylander, Wheeler, Gallagher, Rust
    D - Carlson, Josi, Nurse
    G - Vasilevskiy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puckhead View Post
    I get that it looks bad when you look at him getting Malkin and Wheeler, but when I can't protect Malkin? Would you rather lose Malkin for nothing and keep Wheeler?
    I think if you shopped Malkin around the league on his own you could get better pieces than whatever was added on top of the Wheeler return.
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    How do Wheeler & Kopitar compare value-wise? If they are close, I'd do that.

    You can try shopping Malkin, but if Wheeler for Kopitar is mostly fair, then the rest for a Malkin you can't keep seems fine to me.
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    Wheeler is the better contributor, as he impacts all four skater categories. Kopitar does as well, but I am a little uneasy about that LA team. I know he is legit, but what can I expect? 65 points, 25 PIMS, and a not so good +/-. The rest of the deal works okay for me tho. He offered me an early 3rd rounder for Malkin straight up which would be 32nd overall, or Kase straight up for Malkin as well.
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    C - Bergeron, Zibanejad,
    L - Connor, Marchand, Olofsson
    R - Nylander, Wheeler, Gallagher, Rust
    D - Carlson, Josi, Nurse
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    I think I'd prefer Kase over that 3rd rounder if it's just entry players. If it's everyone, you know better than any o us what a 3rd round pick holds. If it's everyone, the prospect depth makes deeper picks a little more valuable.
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    I made the Kase for Malkin deal...he picked up Crosby for a 2nd and a 3rd. Thanks for you help guys.
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    C - Bergeron, Zibanejad,
    L - Connor, Marchand, Olofsson
    R - Nylander, Wheeler, Gallagher, Rust
    D - Carlson, Josi, Nurse
    G - Vasilevskiy

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    I feel like you're just helping one team load up for peanuts, but you know your league best.
    Did you let the rest of the GMs know that Malkin was available?
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    Yes, hes been in my trade block since the NHL planned its return. The guy loading up will is taking advantage of having a ton of cap space. He will go into the auction draft with very near the cap max, and will look to compete, but he ultimately wont have enough, and package these big salary impact guys for picks and prospects...its a vicious circle for some guys. They end up having a great prospect roster...but until they realize that picks and prospects are a means to an end in most cases, and not meant to hold until they become impact players on your roster...as that doesn't happen with regularity.
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    15 Team Keeper League - 20 roster spots (4C 4L 4R 6D 2G)
    Point Categories - G A +/- PIMS GAA SV%
    Protect 13-15 *$80 Team cap

    C - Bergeron, Zibanejad,
    L - Connor, Marchand, Olofsson
    R - Nylander, Wheeler, Gallagher, Rust
    D - Carlson, Josi, Nurse
    G - Vasilevskiy

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